EMAILER THINKS TOMMOS "MAX BETS" CLIENTS SHOULD PLACE A CLAIM FOR A REFUND. SO DO I.
Sent: 15 February 2009 14:41:13
To:(scamtips@hotmail.co.uk)
Following the removal of Derek Thompson's ridiculous claim that his "exclusiv maximum bets" bets had a 100% success rate, surely the innocent people who paid £150 to join his service are now entitled to cancel their membership and receive a refund.
They should refer to rule 7 of Thompson's terms and conditions which is given below.
As Derek Thompson can afford to pay £11,500 for adverts in the Racing Post, this must mean that he has tricked many people to part with £150 to join his club on the basis that his special bets always win.
It is to be hoped that there is a queue a mile long outside his office tomorrow morning waiting for their money back
"Derek Thompson Racing reserves the right to change the service(s) at any time. Notification of such changes shall be made in the form of an email and article within the members website. "Where a service has been changed that significantly affects (to the detriment) the service a member originally signed up for, those members shall be entitled to cancel their subscription and receive a refund for outstanding months" remaining waiting for their money back
Gerry sez.
Channel 4 Racing's Tommo's "maximum bet" service promotional material has been changed. The advert that Thompson's clients responded to was untruthful and misleading. The advert was and is part of his "maximum bet" promotional service. Therefore by removing it the service no longer has the credability of the initial service the client responded to. BIG TIME SERIOUS DECEPTION THOMPSON!
Sunday, 15 February 2009
SENSATION!..100% scam ad..GONE!!
another email just received
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"100% IN 2008 REMOVED"
Sent: 15 February 2009 12:58:59
To: (scamtips@hotmail.co.uk)
WELL DONE ON ANOTHER SUCCESS.
THOMPSON'S CLAIM THAT HIS "SPECIAL" BETS HAVE A 100% STRIKE RATE HAS TODAY BEEN REMOVED !!!!!
THAT WEBSITE OF HIS IS LOOKING RATHER BARE
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK UNTIL THOMPSON HIMSELF IS REMOVED
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"100% IN 2008 REMOVED"
Sent: 15 February 2009 12:58:59
To: (scamtips@hotmail.co.uk)
WELL DONE ON ANOTHER SUCCESS.
THOMPSON'S CLAIM THAT HIS "SPECIAL" BETS HAVE A 100% STRIKE RATE HAS TODAY BEEN REMOVED !!!!!
THAT WEBSITE OF HIS IS LOOKING RATHER BARE
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK UNTIL THOMPSON HIMSELF IS REMOVED
Gerry sez:
Whats next Thompson? ........ The 63 100% 'winners only' blue flash in your website gloating 100% success from November?...........NOVEMBER 2006!!!!!!
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ON THE 11th FEB GERRY WROTE THIS POST.
Wednesday, 11 February 2009
Tommo 100% success in 2008???
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OK YOU GUYS YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!
The right people have been informed so its in the bag.
Channel 4 Racings Tommo appears to have more tipping services than a black widow spider has legs and all are just as lethal! (I do like that!)......One of his 'legs' is a service that goes under the name of "MAXIMUM BETS"......If you were fortunate enough to have joined at the beginning of January 2008, Thompson would have given you "100 success rate in this service for the rest of the year. That means that not one of his tips in that service lost. WOW!! ..... Do you believe that Derek Thompson of all people had a tipping service in 2008 that gave 100% success? Neither do I.
Below is Channel 4 Thompson's current website extract relating to the above(Todays date is 11th Feb 2009):
"MAXIMUM BETS (exclusive service) - these bets are my personal, private and special bets that I give away only to my private clients, i.e. you! Rare and highly sought after, these bets are usually high priced steering jobs. So far in 2008, my private clients have enjoyed a 100% success rate on these!"
WOW!! As your old pal Nevison would say. That is "A BLOODY GOOD TIPPING SERVICE THOMPSON".... 12 months without a loser.WOW!!!!! Actually Thompson, I do not believe you and the system forbids me to find out. But I think I might know a man who can!
Posted by "Gerry Atrics" Scam Tipping Blog at 12:49
4 DAYS LATER IT WAS GONE!!!!!!!!!!
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4 DAYS AGO THOMPSON'S MAXIMUM BET SCAM-AD LOOKED LIKE THIS.
"TOMMORACING MAXIMUM & SPECIAL BETS (exclusive service) - these bets are my personal, private and special bets that I give away only to my private clients, i.e. you! Rare and highly sought after, these bets are usually high priced steering jobs.
So far in 2008, my private clients have enjoyed a 100% success rate on these!"
4 DAYs LATER AFTER SPEAKING TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE, HIS SCAM-AD LOOKS LIKE THIS!
"TOMMORACING MAXIMUM & SPECIAL BETS (exclusive service) - these bets are my personal, private and special bets that I give away only to my private clients, i.e. you! Rare and highly sought after, these bets are usually high priced steering jobs."
I wonder if the people who joined his service on the strength of that dishonest and misleading claim will be getting a refund? Why should they not!!!
Can you spot the difference?
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"100% IN 2008 REMOVED"
Sent: 15 February 2009 12:58:59
To: (scamtips@hotmail.co.uk)
WELL DONE ON ANOTHER SUCCESS.
THOMPSON'S CLAIM THAT HIS "SPECIAL" BETS HAVE A 100% STRIKE RATE HAS TODAY BEEN REMOVED !!!!!
THAT WEBSITE OF HIS IS LOOKING RATHER BARE
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK UNTIL THOMPSON HIMSELF IS REMOVED
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"100% IN 2008 REMOVED"
Sent: 15 February 2009 12:58:59
To: (scamtips@hotmail.co.uk)
WELL DONE ON ANOTHER SUCCESS.
THOMPSON'S CLAIM THAT HIS "SPECIAL" BETS HAVE A 100% STRIKE RATE HAS TODAY BEEN REMOVED !!!!!
THAT WEBSITE OF HIS IS LOOKING RATHER BARE
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK UNTIL THOMPSON HIMSELF IS REMOVED
Gerry sez:
Whats next Thompson? ........ The 63 100% 'winners only' blue flash in your website gloating 100% success from November?...........NOVEMBER 2006!!!!!!
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ON THE 11th FEB GERRY WROTE THIS POST.
Wednesday, 11 February 2009
Tommo 100% success in 2008???
.
OK YOU GUYS YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!
The right people have been informed so its in the bag.
Channel 4 Racings Tommo appears to have more tipping services than a black widow spider has legs and all are just as lethal! (I do like that!)......One of his 'legs' is a service that goes under the name of "MAXIMUM BETS"......If you were fortunate enough to have joined at the beginning of January 2008, Thompson would have given you "100 success rate in this service for the rest of the year. That means that not one of his tips in that service lost. WOW!! ..... Do you believe that Derek Thompson of all people had a tipping service in 2008 that gave 100% success? Neither do I.
Below is Channel 4 Thompson's current website extract relating to the above(Todays date is 11th Feb 2009):
"MAXIMUM BETS (exclusive service) - these bets are my personal, private and special bets that I give away only to my private clients, i.e. you! Rare and highly sought after, these bets are usually high priced steering jobs. So far in 2008, my private clients have enjoyed a 100% success rate on these!"
WOW!! As your old pal Nevison would say. That is "A BLOODY GOOD TIPPING SERVICE THOMPSON".... 12 months without a loser.WOW!!!!! Actually Thompson, I do not believe you and the system forbids me to find out. But I think I might know a man who can!
Posted by "Gerry Atrics" Scam Tipping Blog at 12:49
4 DAYS LATER IT WAS GONE!!!!!!!!!!
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4 DAYS AGO THOMPSON'S MAXIMUM BET SCAM-AD LOOKED LIKE THIS.
"TOMMORACING MAXIMUM & SPECIAL BETS (exclusive service) - these bets are my personal, private and special bets that I give away only to my private clients, i.e. you! Rare and highly sought after, these bets are usually high priced steering jobs.
So far in 2008, my private clients have enjoyed a 100% success rate on these!"
4 DAYs LATER AFTER SPEAKING TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE, HIS SCAM-AD LOOKS LIKE THIS!
"TOMMORACING MAXIMUM & SPECIAL BETS (exclusive service) - these bets are my personal, private and special bets that I give away only to my private clients, i.e. you! Rare and highly sought after, these bets are usually high priced steering jobs."
I wonder if the people who joined his service on the strength of that dishonest and misleading claim will be getting a refund? Why should they not!!!
Can you spot the difference?
Thompsons text cons.
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EMAIL re TEXT CON
Sent: 15 February 2009 11:31:04
To:(scamtips@hotmail.co.uk)
Derek Thompson has a half page colour advert in Sunday's Racing Post (15th). He is gloating about the 4/5 winner he gave last Sunday (no mention of the losers)
Because of the size of the advert I can for the first time read the small print about the Text Tips service he operates.
There are two types of text service:
(1) The one-off service whereby you simply text him at a cost of £1.50, and he sends you back 2 tips
(2) The subscription service whereby you text him at a cost of £1.00 and he send you back 2 tips, and he will continue to send you tips by text every day unless you send him another text, presumably costing £1.00 ,asking him to stop.
But he's found a way of ripping you off on the subscription service.
In the extremely small print, he informs you that the cost of the subscription service each week will be £14 (£2 a day). So instead of sending you the 2 tips in 1 text message at a cost of £1.00, Thompson is again stretching this over 2 text messages at £1.00 each to make sure he doubles his money.
Is there no limit to this man's ruthless exploitation of innocent people ?
Gerry sez:
By "exploitation of innocent people," do you mean people that are without 'knowledge and experience' of British Horse Racing? Are The British Horse Racing board aware of the 090 scams and cons that are the scourge of British Horse Racing? Of course they are! But the BHB prefer to patronise rather than condemn. The BHB do nothing to protect innocent people who are without knowledge and experience of 090 scam tipping parasites like Thompson, Nevison, Pipe and co. Such parasitic 090 tipsters trick con and deceive those without knowledge and experience. Such tipsters have no morals! What they all have in common is a track record similar to Derek Thompson's. LIKE THIS!!
In 3 months of 2006......Thompson's tips...LOST..£6000.........£50 stk
In 1 month of 2001........Thompson's tips...LOST..£1921.........£50 stk
Mar 2008 (olbg)............Thompson's tips...LOST...£838..........£50 stk
Apr 2008 (olbg).............Thompson's tips...LOST...£400..........£50 stk
May 2008 (olbg)............Thompson's tips...LOST...£500..........£50 stk
Jun 2008 (olbg).............Thompson's tips...LOST...£1125........£50 stk
Jul 2008 (olbg)..............Thompson's tips...LOST...£1260........£50 stk
Aug 2008 (olbg).............Thompson's tips..LOST....£526.........£50 stk
Sep 2008 (olbg).............Thompson's tips..LOST....£260.........£50 stk
Oct 2008 (olbg).............Thompson's tips...LOST...£200..........£50 stk
Nov 2008 (olbg).............Thompson's tips...LOST...£840..........£50 stk
Oct 2008 (Buzz line)......Thompson's tips...LOST...£1400........£50 stk
Se23Fe7.08(talk sport)...Thompson's tips...LOST...£later........£50 stk
Au15-31.08(RP 090).......Thompson's tips...LOST...£1058.......£50 stk
Se01-31.08(RP 090).......Thompson's tips...LOST...£1726.......£50 stk
Oct 2008 (RP 090)..........MORE TRASH RESULTS COMING SOON
Nov 2008 (RP 090)..........MORE TRASH RESULTS COMING SOON
Dec 2008 (RP 090)..........MORE TRASH RESULTS COMING SOON
AND THIS!
(£5 STK)
Oct....................................(loss).......(prof).........(090) ...... ongoing
10oct..(2-5)(5-1)L.L.L.L.L.......................£02.........-£05.........-£66
09oct..(11-4)(5-6)L.L.L...........................£03.........-£05.........-£62
08oct..(8-13)L.L...................-£07..........................-£05.........-£60
07oct..(3-1)L.L.L.L.L.L..........-£15..........................-£05.........-£48
06oct..(7-4)L.L.L.L.L.L..........-£21..........................-£05.........-£28
05oct..(6-4)L.L.L.L.L.L..........-£22..........................-£05.........-£01
04oct..(8-11)(97-10ew)(11-4)L.L.L.L.L.L...£36..........-£05...........£26
03oct..(8-11)(4-1)(7-4)L.L.L.L............... ..£12..........-£05.........-£05
02oct..(10-11)L.L.L.L.L.L.......-£25.........................-£05.........-£12
01oct..(11-10)(11-4)(2-5)(15-8)(4-7)2L.......£24.........-£05..........£19
AND THIS!!
(£5 STK)
Sep....................................(loss).......(prof)..........(090)......ongoing
30sep..(2-1)L.L.L.L.................-£10........................-£05.........-£308
29sep..(13-8)(11-2)L.L.L.L.....................£15...........-£05.........-£293
28sep..L.L.L.L.L.L..................-£30........................-£05.........-£302
27sep..(4-7)L.L.L.L.................-£17........................-£05.........-£267
26sep..(15-8)L.L.L.L.L............-£15........................-£05.........-£245
25sep..L.L.L.L.L.L.L...............-£35........................-£05.........-£225
24sep..(3-1)(10-11)L.L.L.L.L....-£05........................-£05.........-£185
23sep..(8-13)(1-1)L.................................£03.........-£05.........-£174
22sep..(4-9)L..........................-£03.......................-£05.........-£172
21sep..(15-8)(9-1)L.L.L.L........................£34..........-£05.........-£164
20sep..L.L.L.L.L.L.L................-£35........................-£05.........-£194
19sep.(1-3)(10-11)(9-2)L.L.L.L.L.L.0........................-£05.........-£154
18sep.(9-4)(1-1)(8-13)L.L.L.L....-£01........................-£05.........-£147
17sep.(2-1)(8-11)(1-2)(6-4)L.L.L...............£09..........-£05.........-£142
16sep.(1-1)(6-4)L.L.................................£02..........-£05.........-£145
15sep.(5-2)L.L.L.L.L................-£12........................-£05.........-£143
14sep.(3-1)L.L.L.L.L................-£10........................-£05.........-£125
13sep.(7-1)L.L.L.L.L.L.L...........-£00.......................-£05..........-£110
12sep.(8-11)(8-11)L.L.L.L.L......-£18.......................-£05..........-£105
11sep.(1-2)(1-3)(5-1)L.L.L.L....................£09..........-£05..........-£82
10sep.(10-11)L L L L L.............-£20.......................-£05..........-£86
09sep.(8-15)(4-6)L L L L ..........-£14.......................-£05..........-£61
08sep.(1-1)(11-10)(1-1)...........................£16..........-£05..........-£42
07sep.(4-11)(9-4)(8-13)L L L.................. .£01..........-£05..........-£52
06sep.(2-1)(9-2)L L..............................,..£22.........-£05..........-£48
05sep.L L L L..........................-£20.......................-£05..........-£66
04sep.(11-8)(4-5)L L L L ..........-£09.............,.........-£05..........-£41
03sep.(11-8)L L L L L ..............-£18.......................-£05..........-£27
02sep.L L...............................-£10........................-£05..........-£04
01sp..(15-8)(5-6)(6-4)L...........................£16..........-£05...........£11
AND THIS!
(£5 stk)
Aug......................................loss.........prof.........(090)......ongoing
31au..(11-8)L L L....................-£08.......................-£05.........-£184
30au..L L L............................-£15........................-£05.........-£171
29au..L L L L.........................-£20..................,.....-£05.........-£151
28au..(2-1)L L L L L................-£15........................-£05..........-£126
27au..(13-8)L L L L L .............-£19........................-£05..........-£106
26au..(4-9)(2-1)L L L ..............-£03........................-£05..........-£82
25au..(1-1)(11-10)(11-4)(2-1)L L L L...........£14.........-£05..........-£74
24au..(2-1)L L L L L ................-£15........................-£05..........-£83
23au..(1-2)(9-4)L L L.L.L.L.L ....-£21........................-£05..........-£63
22au..(1-1)L L L L L L L L.........-£35........................-£05..........-£37
21au..(7-1)(5-4)(7-2)L L L.........................£44.........-£05..........-£03
20au..(4-9)(2-5)L L...................-£06........................-£05..........-£36
19au..L L................................-£10........................-£05..........-£25
18au..(4-5)(2-5)(6-1)(6-4)L L L....................£28........-£05..........-£10
17au..(1-2)L L .........................-£08........................-£05..........-£33
16au..(1-1)(10-11)(2-1)L L L L L.-£05........................-£05..........-£20
15au..(2-1)(2-1)L L L L L...........-£05........................-£05..........-£10
AND THERE IS MORE TO COME!
EMAIL re TEXT CON
Sent: 15 February 2009 11:31:04
To:(scamtips@hotmail.co.uk)
Derek Thompson has a half page colour advert in Sunday's Racing Post (15th). He is gloating about the 4/5 winner he gave last Sunday (no mention of the losers)
Because of the size of the advert I can for the first time read the small print about the Text Tips service he operates.
There are two types of text service:
(1) The one-off service whereby you simply text him at a cost of £1.50, and he sends you back 2 tips
(2) The subscription service whereby you text him at a cost of £1.00 and he send you back 2 tips, and he will continue to send you tips by text every day unless you send him another text, presumably costing £1.00 ,asking him to stop.
But he's found a way of ripping you off on the subscription service.
In the extremely small print, he informs you that the cost of the subscription service each week will be £14 (£2 a day). So instead of sending you the 2 tips in 1 text message at a cost of £1.00, Thompson is again stretching this over 2 text messages at £1.00 each to make sure he doubles his money.
Is there no limit to this man's ruthless exploitation of innocent people ?
Gerry sez:
By "exploitation of innocent people," do you mean people that are without 'knowledge and experience' of British Horse Racing? Are The British Horse Racing board aware of the 090 scams and cons that are the scourge of British Horse Racing? Of course they are! But the BHB prefer to patronise rather than condemn. The BHB do nothing to protect innocent people who are without knowledge and experience of 090 scam tipping parasites like Thompson, Nevison, Pipe and co. Such parasitic 090 tipsters trick con and deceive those without knowledge and experience. Such tipsters have no morals! What they all have in common is a track record similar to Derek Thompson's. LIKE THIS!!
In 3 months of 2006......Thompson's tips...LOST..£6000.........£50 stk
In 1 month of 2001........Thompson's tips...LOST..£1921.........£50 stk
Mar 2008 (olbg)............Thompson's tips...LOST...£838..........£50 stk
Apr 2008 (olbg).............Thompson's tips...LOST...£400..........£50 stk
May 2008 (olbg)............Thompson's tips...LOST...£500..........£50 stk
Jun 2008 (olbg).............Thompson's tips...LOST...£1125........£50 stk
Jul 2008 (olbg)..............Thompson's tips...LOST...£1260........£50 stk
Aug 2008 (olbg).............Thompson's tips..LOST....£526.........£50 stk
Sep 2008 (olbg).............Thompson's tips..LOST....£260.........£50 stk
Oct 2008 (olbg).............Thompson's tips...LOST...£200..........£50 stk
Nov 2008 (olbg).............Thompson's tips...LOST...£840..........£50 stk
Oct 2008 (Buzz line)......Thompson's tips...LOST...£1400........£50 stk
Se23Fe7.08(talk sport)...Thompson's tips...LOST...£later........£50 stk
Au15-31.08(RP 090).......Thompson's tips...LOST...£1058.......£50 stk
Se01-31.08(RP 090).......Thompson's tips...LOST...£1726.......£50 stk
Oct 2008 (RP 090)..........MORE TRASH RESULTS COMING SOON
Nov 2008 (RP 090)..........MORE TRASH RESULTS COMING SOON
Dec 2008 (RP 090)..........MORE TRASH RESULTS COMING SOON
AND THIS!
(£5 STK)
Oct....................................(loss).......(prof).........(090) ...... ongoing
10oct..(2-5)(5-1)L.L.L.L.L.......................£02.........-£05.........-£66
09oct..(11-4)(5-6)L.L.L...........................£03.........-£05.........-£62
08oct..(8-13)L.L...................-£07..........................-£05.........-£60
07oct..(3-1)L.L.L.L.L.L..........-£15..........................-£05.........-£48
06oct..(7-4)L.L.L.L.L.L..........-£21..........................-£05.........-£28
05oct..(6-4)L.L.L.L.L.L..........-£22..........................-£05.........-£01
04oct..(8-11)(97-10ew)(11-4)L.L.L.L.L.L...£36..........-£05...........£26
03oct..(8-11)(4-1)(7-4)L.L.L.L............... ..£12..........-£05.........-£05
02oct..(10-11)L.L.L.L.L.L.......-£25.........................-£05.........-£12
01oct..(11-10)(11-4)(2-5)(15-8)(4-7)2L.......£24.........-£05..........£19
AND THIS!!
(£5 STK)
Sep....................................(loss).......(prof)..........(090)......ongoing
30sep..(2-1)L.L.L.L.................-£10........................-£05.........-£308
29sep..(13-8)(11-2)L.L.L.L.....................£15...........-£05.........-£293
28sep..L.L.L.L.L.L..................-£30........................-£05.........-£302
27sep..(4-7)L.L.L.L.................-£17........................-£05.........-£267
26sep..(15-8)L.L.L.L.L............-£15........................-£05.........-£245
25sep..L.L.L.L.L.L.L...............-£35........................-£05.........-£225
24sep..(3-1)(10-11)L.L.L.L.L....-£05........................-£05.........-£185
23sep..(8-13)(1-1)L.................................£03.........-£05.........-£174
22sep..(4-9)L..........................-£03.......................-£05.........-£172
21sep..(15-8)(9-1)L.L.L.L........................£34..........-£05.........-£164
20sep..L.L.L.L.L.L.L................-£35........................-£05.........-£194
19sep.(1-3)(10-11)(9-2)L.L.L.L.L.L.0........................-£05.........-£154
18sep.(9-4)(1-1)(8-13)L.L.L.L....-£01........................-£05.........-£147
17sep.(2-1)(8-11)(1-2)(6-4)L.L.L...............£09..........-£05.........-£142
16sep.(1-1)(6-4)L.L.................................£02..........-£05.........-£145
15sep.(5-2)L.L.L.L.L................-£12........................-£05.........-£143
14sep.(3-1)L.L.L.L.L................-£10........................-£05.........-£125
13sep.(7-1)L.L.L.L.L.L.L...........-£00.......................-£05..........-£110
12sep.(8-11)(8-11)L.L.L.L.L......-£18.......................-£05..........-£105
11sep.(1-2)(1-3)(5-1)L.L.L.L....................£09..........-£05..........-£82
10sep.(10-11)L L L L L.............-£20.......................-£05..........-£86
09sep.(8-15)(4-6)L L L L ..........-£14.......................-£05..........-£61
08sep.(1-1)(11-10)(1-1)...........................£16..........-£05..........-£42
07sep.(4-11)(9-4)(8-13)L L L.................. .£01..........-£05..........-£52
06sep.(2-1)(9-2)L L..............................,..£22.........-£05..........-£48
05sep.L L L L..........................-£20.......................-£05..........-£66
04sep.(11-8)(4-5)L L L L ..........-£09.............,.........-£05..........-£41
03sep.(11-8)L L L L L ..............-£18.......................-£05..........-£27
02sep.L L...............................-£10........................-£05..........-£04
01sp..(15-8)(5-6)(6-4)L...........................£16..........-£05...........£11
AND THIS!
(£5 stk)
Aug......................................loss.........prof.........(090)......ongoing
31au..(11-8)L L L....................-£08.......................-£05.........-£184
30au..L L L............................-£15........................-£05.........-£171
29au..L L L L.........................-£20..................,.....-£05.........-£151
28au..(2-1)L L L L L................-£15........................-£05..........-£126
27au..(13-8)L L L L L .............-£19........................-£05..........-£106
26au..(4-9)(2-1)L L L ..............-£03........................-£05..........-£82
25au..(1-1)(11-10)(11-4)(2-1)L L L L...........£14.........-£05..........-£74
24au..(2-1)L L L L L ................-£15........................-£05..........-£83
23au..(1-2)(9-4)L L L.L.L.L.L ....-£21........................-£05..........-£63
22au..(1-1)L L L L L L L L.........-£35........................-£05..........-£37
21au..(7-1)(5-4)(7-2)L L L.........................£44.........-£05..........-£03
20au..(4-9)(2-5)L L...................-£06........................-£05..........-£36
19au..L L................................-£10........................-£05..........-£25
18au..(4-5)(2-5)(6-1)(6-4)L L L....................£28........-£05..........-£10
17au..(1-2)L L .........................-£08........................-£05..........-£33
16au..(1-1)(10-11)(2-1)L L L L L.-£05........................-£05..........-£20
15au..(2-1)(2-1)L L L L L...........-£05........................-£05..........-£10
AND THERE IS MORE TO COME!
Saturday, 14 February 2009
Nevisons £1.50 pm help line con
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Yesterday I tried to find out how many services Nevison has got and how well his BLOODY GOOD TIPPING SERVICE was doing. After paying about £10 (£1.50 pm)a girl said she could not give that information but said that Nevison's 'winners' could be found in his adverts in the Racing Post!!!! Presumably she is refering to his frequent £6000 plus VAT, full page 090 (£1.50 pm) adverts which the likes of Thompson and himself have poluted the RP with over the last month or so. (probably 4 or 5) How many people "without knowledge or experience" have to phone at £1 and £1.50 a minute to pay for £30,000 worth of adverts. JUST TO BREAK EVEN!!! One now begins to see the size of the scam and why the reluctance to pass on information to help clients who dare to ask. How dare they!!! The only help Nevison offers his clients is to make sure they cannot see through his blindfold of trickery and deception. Thompson gloats like Nevison. Take a look at Thompsons record in my archives. Nevisons is almost certainly no different. The 090 tipping racket is the biggest CON in British Horse Racing and as such it brings the BHB into disrepute. FACT! 090 tipping rackets exploit those without knowledge and experience. FACT! All 090 tipping adverts in the Racing Post are CONS and rackets. FACT!!.... including PIPES!!!! If your not Pipe, then show your profits for the past couple of months! You can't can you? But like Nevison, Thompson and co, you are brilliant at spewing out winners, winners, and winners only.
After paying Nevison £10 or so for help, I still do not know how many 090 services Nevison has got. I know he has got two because on the 1st Feb he gave 3 low priced winners on one, and none on the other. One service averages 7 tips a day and the other 2. I believe that he cherry picks on both.
Yesterday I tried to find out how many services Nevison has got and how well his BLOODY GOOD TIPPING SERVICE was doing. After paying about £10 (£1.50 pm)a girl said she could not give that information but said that Nevison's 'winners' could be found in his adverts in the Racing Post!!!! Presumably she is refering to his frequent £6000 plus VAT, full page 090 (£1.50 pm) adverts which the likes of Thompson and himself have poluted the RP with over the last month or so. (probably 4 or 5) How many people "without knowledge or experience" have to phone at £1 and £1.50 a minute to pay for £30,000 worth of adverts. JUST TO BREAK EVEN!!! One now begins to see the size of the scam and why the reluctance to pass on information to help clients who dare to ask. How dare they!!! The only help Nevison offers his clients is to make sure they cannot see through his blindfold of trickery and deception. Thompson gloats like Nevison. Take a look at Thompsons record in my archives. Nevisons is almost certainly no different. The 090 tipping racket is the biggest CON in British Horse Racing and as such it brings the BHB into disrepute. FACT! 090 tipping rackets exploit those without knowledge and experience. FACT! All 090 tipping adverts in the Racing Post are CONS and rackets. FACT!!.... including PIPES!!!! If your not Pipe, then show your profits for the past couple of months! You can't can you? But like Nevison, Thompson and co, you are brilliant at spewing out winners, winners, and winners only.
After paying Nevison £10 or so for help, I still do not know how many 090 services Nevison has got. I know he has got two because on the 1st Feb he gave 3 low priced winners on one, and none on the other. One service averages 7 tips a day and the other 2. I believe that he cherry picks on both.
"great finish to year" .£9 on 31st dec!
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CHANNEL 4 RACINGS DEREK THOMPSON IS A BLOODY LIAR!
YES!!! HE IS A BLOODY LIAR!! READ ON AND TELL ME OLD GERRY IS WRONG THOMPSON!!!!
re: Channel 4 Racings Tommos'
090 RP tipping service. £1 per min.
Advert date 4th Jan 2009
"TOMMO’S TIPS
A great finish to the year with
December winners including
12-1, 6-1, 5-1, 5-1, 4-1, 4-1, 4-1, 3-1
Plus many many more!
Don’t miss out in 2009"
PORKIES!!!!.......PORKIES!!!.......PORKIES!!!
What the hell does Channel 4 Racings Tommo mean by "a great finish to the year?" He does not say. So lets be generous and say that he probably means the last 3 weeks. After all, that is the "finish of the year" is it not? He was in profit up to the 5th (inc) of £55. (£5 stake) But the first week in December is hardly the finish of the year is it? But if you think it is just knock £55 off the total loss figure and you will see that CHANNEL 4 RACING'S TOMMO IS ONE BLOODY GREAT BIG LIAR!
BY TELLING HIS CLIENTS THAT THESE RESULTS ARE "A GREAT FINISH TO THE YEAR" MAKES CHANNEL 4 RACINGS DEREK THOMPSON A PORKY PIE!! AND ON THE STRENGTH OF THAT OBSCENE GLOAT HE HAS MISLEAD AND TRICKED PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING HE IS SOMETHING HE IS NOT. THEY HAVE PAID HIM BLIND OF HIS SCAM!
Check it out Thompson coz the regulator is!!!! And wile you are at it, show it to the boss's at Channel 4 Racing ..... Perhaps they do not know!!!!
I have all your results in front of me Thompson. Sent to me by kind people who want the truth to be told as to the stinking tipping rackets that pollutes the RACING POST every day of the year. ALL HUGE LOSS MAKERS!!! Their misleading and dishonest claims should be made accountable. Question Thompson. If any of your January clients had access to the list below. WOULD THEY HAVE PHONED? IF YOU GOOD GUYS ARE SHOCKED BY THIS TRASH....WAIT TILL YOU SEE NOVEMBERS!!!!!
Dec......................................loss.........prof.........(090)......ongoing
31st..(13-8)(11-10)(2-1)L L.......................£14...........-£5.......-£239
30th..(5-4)L L L L ......................-£14......................-£5.......-£248
29th..(3-1)L L L L L ....................-£10......................-£5.......-£229
28th..(6-4)(15-8) L L ...............................£07...........-£5.......-£224
27th..(4-5) L L L L L L L .............-£33.......................-£5.......-£226
26th..(15-8)(10-11)L L L L L L L L -£26.......................-£5.......-£188
25th..missed.Plus £5.I'll be generous........£05...........-£5.......-£157
24th..missed.Plus £5.I'll be generous........£05...........-£5.......-£157
23rd..(5-1)(4-1)L L L ...............................£30...........-£5.......-£157
22nd..L L L L L L......................-£30........................-£5.......-£182
21st..(9-4)(5-2)(3-1)L L L.........................£19............-£5.......-£147
20th..(1-1)(9-4)(3-1)L L L L.......................£12...........-£5.......-£161
17th..L L L L L L......................-£30........................-£5.......-£168
16th..(4-1)L L L L ....................-£00........................-£5.......-£137
15th..L L L (10-3)L (5-4)L..........-£00........................-£5.......-£127
14th..(10-3)L L L ....................................£02..........-£5.......-£122
13th..(4-1)(5-2) L L L...............................£18..........-£5.......-£119
12th..L L L L L L.....................-£30.........................-£5.......-£132
11th..L(4-6)(5-1)L L L...............................£07.........-£5.........£-97
10th..L L L L L L ....................-£30.........................-£5........-£99
09th..(13-8)L L L L (9-4)...........-£00.........................-£5........-£64
08th..(8-15)L L L L L ...............-£22.........................-£5........-£59
07th..(5-2)L L L L....................-£07..........................-£5........-£32
06th..(8-11)(11-8).L L L L L......-£15..........................-£5........-£20
BUT THOMPSON COULD BE TELLING THE TRUTH. ON THE LAST DAY OF THE YEAR HE WON £9. PERHAPS THAT IS WHAT HE MEANT BY "A GREAT FINISH TO THE YEAR"
CHANNEL 4 RACINGS TOMMO IS A LIAR!!!
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if anybody else has got any service details on thompson nevison and co, send em in and i'll sort 'em ............. especially nevison!!!! Help to expose these parasites that are the scourge of British Horse Racing..... DO IT!!
scamtips@hotmail.co.uk
Perhaps when Channel 4 Racings Tommo says a great finish to the year he meant NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER. How about that Thompson. WOW!!! A will be revealed
Once again I have to say that without the support of many many good guys out there I would never ever have been able to say:
CHANNEL 4 RACING'S DEREK THOMPSON IS A LIAR!!!
Think about it!
Send 'em in guys. I day, a couple of days, a week or whatever. If you have a complete days results LET ME KNOW! From small acorns do big oak trees grow! Anonymous or otherwise
How about some of you millionaire geezers checking him out. OK OK anything is worth a try!
I'm gone
CHANNEL 4 RACINGS DEREK THOMPSON IS A BLOODY LIAR!
YES!!! HE IS A BLOODY LIAR!! READ ON AND TELL ME OLD GERRY IS WRONG THOMPSON!!!!
re: Channel 4 Racings Tommos'
090 RP tipping service. £1 per min.
Advert date 4th Jan 2009
"TOMMO’S TIPS
A great finish to the year with
December winners including
12-1, 6-1, 5-1, 5-1, 4-1, 4-1, 4-1, 3-1
Plus many many more!
Don’t miss out in 2009"
PORKIES!!!!.......PORKIES!!!.......PORKIES!!!
What the hell does Channel 4 Racings Tommo mean by "a great finish to the year?" He does not say. So lets be generous and say that he probably means the last 3 weeks. After all, that is the "finish of the year" is it not? He was in profit up to the 5th (inc) of £55. (£5 stake) But the first week in December is hardly the finish of the year is it? But if you think it is just knock £55 off the total loss figure and you will see that CHANNEL 4 RACING'S TOMMO IS ONE BLOODY GREAT BIG LIAR!
BY TELLING HIS CLIENTS THAT THESE RESULTS ARE "A GREAT FINISH TO THE YEAR" MAKES CHANNEL 4 RACINGS DEREK THOMPSON A PORKY PIE!! AND ON THE STRENGTH OF THAT OBSCENE GLOAT HE HAS MISLEAD AND TRICKED PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING HE IS SOMETHING HE IS NOT. THEY HAVE PAID HIM BLIND OF HIS SCAM!
Check it out Thompson coz the regulator is!!!! And wile you are at it, show it to the boss's at Channel 4 Racing ..... Perhaps they do not know!!!!
I have all your results in front of me Thompson. Sent to me by kind people who want the truth to be told as to the stinking tipping rackets that pollutes the RACING POST every day of the year. ALL HUGE LOSS MAKERS!!! Their misleading and dishonest claims should be made accountable. Question Thompson. If any of your January clients had access to the list below. WOULD THEY HAVE PHONED? IF YOU GOOD GUYS ARE SHOCKED BY THIS TRASH....WAIT TILL YOU SEE NOVEMBERS!!!!!
Dec......................................loss.........prof.........(090)......ongoing
31st..(13-8)(11-10)(2-1)L L.......................£14...........-£5.......-£239
30th..(5-4)L L L L ......................-£14......................-£5.......-£248
29th..(3-1)L L L L L ....................-£10......................-£5.......-£229
28th..(6-4)(15-8) L L ...............................£07...........-£5.......-£224
27th..(4-5) L L L L L L L .............-£33.......................-£5.......-£226
26th..(15-8)(10-11)L L L L L L L L -£26.......................-£5.......-£188
25th..missed.Plus £5.I'll be generous........£05...........-£5.......-£157
24th..missed.Plus £5.I'll be generous........£05...........-£5.......-£157
23rd..(5-1)(4-1)L L L ...............................£30...........-£5.......-£157
22nd..L L L L L L......................-£30........................-£5.......-£182
21st..(9-4)(5-2)(3-1)L L L.........................£19............-£5.......-£147
20th..(1-1)(9-4)(3-1)L L L L.......................£12...........-£5.......-£161
17th..L L L L L L......................-£30........................-£5.......-£168
16th..(4-1)L L L L ....................-£00........................-£5.......-£137
15th..L L L (10-3)L (5-4)L..........-£00........................-£5.......-£127
14th..(10-3)L L L ....................................£02..........-£5.......-£122
13th..(4-1)(5-2) L L L...............................£18..........-£5.......-£119
12th..L L L L L L.....................-£30.........................-£5.......-£132
11th..L(4-6)(5-1)L L L...............................£07.........-£5.........£-97
10th..L L L L L L ....................-£30.........................-£5........-£99
09th..(13-8)L L L L (9-4)...........-£00.........................-£5........-£64
08th..(8-15)L L L L L ...............-£22.........................-£5........-£59
07th..(5-2)L L L L....................-£07..........................-£5........-£32
06th..(8-11)(11-8).L L L L L......-£15..........................-£5........-£20
BUT THOMPSON COULD BE TELLING THE TRUTH. ON THE LAST DAY OF THE YEAR HE WON £9. PERHAPS THAT IS WHAT HE MEANT BY "A GREAT FINISH TO THE YEAR"
CHANNEL 4 RACINGS TOMMO IS A LIAR!!!
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if anybody else has got any service details on thompson nevison and co, send em in and i'll sort 'em ............. especially nevison!!!! Help to expose these parasites that are the scourge of British Horse Racing..... DO IT!!
scamtips@hotmail.co.uk
Perhaps when Channel 4 Racings Tommo says a great finish to the year he meant NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER. How about that Thompson. WOW!!! A will be revealed
Once again I have to say that without the support of many many good guys out there I would never ever have been able to say:
CHANNEL 4 RACING'S DEREK THOMPSON IS A LIAR!!!
Think about it!
Send 'em in guys. I day, a couple of days, a week or whatever. If you have a complete days results LET ME KNOW! From small acorns do big oak trees grow! Anonymous or otherwise
How about some of you millionaire geezers checking him out. OK OK anything is worth a try!
I'm gone
Friday, 13 February 2009
Nevison 1st Feb LIAR?
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Sent: 13 February 2009 13:25:50
To: (scamtips@hotmail.co.uk)
Dave Nevison is a DISHONEST LIAR and a CON-MAN who fiddles the figures to deceive the public.
He pays for a full page advert in Friday's Racing Post (13th), Is that a trick advert Nevison?
He claims 10 winners from 21 selections in February. That is a LIE Nevison. On the 1st February you gave no less than 9 selections including 8 favourites and 6 of them lost !!! You give out between 3 and 6 horses every day, so to claim you have only given 21 selections up to the 13th. February is a BLATANT LIE.
Yesterday's half page advert allowed you to cherry pick your winners from your mysterious "account bets" that nobody understands ,and you claimed 10 winners from 20 selections. All your other hopeless tips that were not an "account bet" were conveniently forgotten about.
Today you are not cherry picking, instead you are LYING. There is no mention of "account bets", whatever they are.
You are claiming 10 winners from 21 selections which is DISHONEST
Dave Nevison is trying to screw £1.50 per minute from the public in one of the most disgusting and misleading adverts ever published.
Nevison, you should hang your head in shame and never set foot on the racecourse again
Gerry sez: I must admit that my response to his £10,000 worth of trick advertising over the last two days was indeed as confusing as what you say. Now take a look at his advert and ask yourself how can you get in touch with him to explain the confusion. He has got a telepone number. It is 0870 487 4870.
Now there are a lot of tricky bistards out there that make 10's of thousands of pounds by trick telephone calls so I tapped 0870 into Google. This is what came up!
SAYNOTO0870.COM
Question? How can you speak to Nevison without him screwing you for £1.50 per minute
I NEED SOME HONEST PERSON TO FEED ME NEVISONS TIPPING RECORDS!!
PEOPLE LIKE THOMPSON AND NEVISON ARE RACING PARASITES!!
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update 13th Feb 15.06
Gerry asked the above emailer if he could help with trying to access Nevisons track record and also how many tipping services he operates. I told the emailer NOT TO RING THAT 0870 number under any circumstances. He ignored my request and paid the price of £1.50 per minute for HELP from the biggest advertorial parasite in British horse racing! DAVE NEVISON! This is what happened.
Sent: 13 February 2009 14:34:19
To: (scamtips@hotmail.co.uk)
Gerry, I had to ring it - there was no other way.
The firm that answers is Eckoh Technology. They act on behalf of a number of organisations (including all the tipping lines) mobile phone ringtones etc... Their role is simply to explain what a particular service provides, in this case "tips".
I told them I was thinking of subscribing and I would like some history of their performance. They said that sort of information is not available. I asked how new subscribers are expected to form an opinion, and they said that most new subscribers come personally recommended from satisfied customers. I asked if I could find out from elsewhere how successful the tipsters were, and the lady said the best way was to read the adverts in the RP which explained about their previous winners such as 5/4, 11/10 etc... (she honestly believed this !!!)
And yes, it cost me £1.50 pm !!!
Gerry sez!..... Brrrr Brrrrr!...Hello regulator.......
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update 13th Feb 15.22
13 February 2009 14:40:59
(scamtips@hotmail.co.uk)
Hi Gerry. You may be interested in this. MOST INTERESTING.
The ASA upheld another complaint against a tipster, and its as recent as January this year
http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/adjudications/Public/TF_ADJ_45543.htm
Gerry sez:.....WOW!! .....MORE!!!.....MORE!!!!
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Earlier in the day I recieved an email which I suggested should be forwarded onto ppp, asa and trading standards. This was his reply.
Sent: 13 February 2009 15:15:55
To:(scamtips@hotmail.co.uk)
"I will do. This is as bad as Thompson importing some winners from another service to give him some credibility.
What Nevison is effectively doing is giving out tips at £1.50 a minute, but if they lose he says they don't count against him. However if they win he will be gloating for weeks and put them in adverts.
His advert today is making false claims in order to obtain a financial advantage for himself, and that is unfair.
Gerry sez....and those with 'lack of knowledge or inexperience' will never know!
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Sent: 13 February 2009 00:35:35
To: (scamtips@hotmail.co.uk)
Dave Nevison is cherry picking and producing some tasty figures.
Dave Nevison takes a half page advert in Thursday's Racing Post and claims 10 winners from 20 selections.
Dave Nevison then lists all the tips, both winners and losers, together with their SP's. And guess what ? It shows a profit of £204 to a £50 stake. But wait a minute .... in small print, it says these are "account bets" !!! What exactly is an "account bet" ?? Do callers have to have an account somewhere to back these horses ? Would a first time caller know what an "account bet" is ??
Dave Nevison is attempting to deceive the public by manipulating the figures.
On the 1st February, Dave Nevison claims 3 tips, all of which lost. That is not true. On the 1st February Dave, you gave out 9 tips and 6 lost. I know this for a fact because I telephoned you. If you had just given 3 tips, the call would have lasted a minute - instead it lasted 5 minutes meaning more premium rate money for your pocket.
On the 4th February, you claim only 1 selection. On the 8th February you claim only 1 selection. On that basis the call should have lasted just a few seconds - I bet it didn't.
Dave Nevison gives out numerous tips every day and the call lasts at least between 3 and 6 minutes @ £1.50.
It is no good Dave Nevison cherry picking at this stage in order to show a profit from something called an "account bet".
Every horse you gave as a tip should be on your list. The reason they are not there is because it would have produced a loss for you.
In future, just tip only the "account bet" and get off the phone within seconds to save the gullible caller some money, or include everything (including the rest of the losers) in your adverts and produce true figures.
By listing only the "account bets", you are massaging the figures to your advantage. And if you'd like me to remind you of the 3 other losers you gave on the 1st February that you didn't include in your list then get in touch and I'll remind you.
Gerry sez: Account bets? What are these?
To find out you will have to ring Nevisons helpline 0870 4874870.
You may at first think it is free. After all, you are only making an enquiry.
But it is not free. Aproximately 12 " away from the telehone number, the furthest distance possible, you will see that Nevison charges £1.50 per minute to help people.
So whilst talking to a human being Nevison is charging you £1.50 per minute. The rate charge in small print is rather misleading being so far apart.
If you ask for details of Nevisons performance you will be told that such information is not available.
If you ask how potential customers can form an opinion about Nevisons services, you will be told that most 090 customers come personally recommended from other satisfied customers. (Where do you go to find a satisfied 090 customer? Try the moon!)
If you ask from what other source you can try to find out exactyly how successful Nevison is you will be told to look at his results in The Racing Post.
If you look in The Racing Post (13th Feb) you will see Nevisons full page £6000 advert which shows nothing but a full page of winners. But you have already seen his winners, you want to see his losers. The reason you want to see his losers is because he may be trying the same 'winner only' trick as his tipping pal Channel 4 Racings Derek Thompson.
If you are still unhappy that you unable to find out more about Dave Nevison' 090tipping service, will have to ring Nevisons helpline 0870 4874870.
You may at first think it is free. After all, you are only making an enquiry.
But it is not free. Aproximately 12 " away from the telehone number, the furthest distance possible, you will see that Nevison charges £1.50 per minute to help people.
So whilst talking to a human being Nevison is charging you £1.50 per minute. The rate charge in small print is rather misleading being so far apart.
If you ask for details of Nevisons performance you will be told that such information is not available.
If you ask how potential customers can form an opinion about Nevisons services, you will be told that most 090 customers come personally recommended from other satisfied customers. (Where do you go to find a satisfied 090 customer? Try the moon!)
If you ask from what other source you can try to find out exactyly how successful Nevison is you will be told to look at his results in The Racing Post.
If you look in The Racing Post (13th Feb) you will see Nevisons full page £6000 advert which shows nothing but a full page of winners. But you have already seen his winners, you want to see his losers. The reason you want to see his losers is because he may be trying the same 'winner only' trick as his tipping pal Channel 4 Racings Derek Thompson.
And all I wanted was confirmation that Dave Nevisison has
"A BLOODY GOOD TIPPING SERVICE"
Why do you make it so difficult Nevison? Have you something to hide?
Sent: 13 February 2009 13:25:50
To: (scamtips@hotmail.co.uk)
Dave Nevison is a DISHONEST LIAR and a CON-MAN who fiddles the figures to deceive the public.
He pays for a full page advert in Friday's Racing Post (13th), Is that a trick advert Nevison?
He claims 10 winners from 21 selections in February. That is a LIE Nevison. On the 1st February you gave no less than 9 selections including 8 favourites and 6 of them lost !!! You give out between 3 and 6 horses every day, so to claim you have only given 21 selections up to the 13th. February is a BLATANT LIE.
Yesterday's half page advert allowed you to cherry pick your winners from your mysterious "account bets" that nobody understands ,and you claimed 10 winners from 20 selections. All your other hopeless tips that were not an "account bet" were conveniently forgotten about.
Today you are not cherry picking, instead you are LYING. There is no mention of "account bets", whatever they are.
You are claiming 10 winners from 21 selections which is DISHONEST
Dave Nevison is trying to screw £1.50 per minute from the public in one of the most disgusting and misleading adverts ever published.
Nevison, you should hang your head in shame and never set foot on the racecourse again
Gerry sez: I must admit that my response to his £10,000 worth of trick advertising over the last two days was indeed as confusing as what you say. Now take a look at his advert and ask yourself how can you get in touch with him to explain the confusion. He has got a telepone number. It is 0870 487 4870.
Now there are a lot of tricky bistards out there that make 10's of thousands of pounds by trick telephone calls so I tapped 0870 into Google. This is what came up!
SAYNOTO0870.COM
Question? How can you speak to Nevison without him screwing you for £1.50 per minute
I NEED SOME HONEST PERSON TO FEED ME NEVISONS TIPPING RECORDS!!
PEOPLE LIKE THOMPSON AND NEVISON ARE RACING PARASITES!!
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update 13th Feb 15.06
Gerry asked the above emailer if he could help with trying to access Nevisons track record and also how many tipping services he operates. I told the emailer NOT TO RING THAT 0870 number under any circumstances. He ignored my request and paid the price of £1.50 per minute for HELP from the biggest advertorial parasite in British horse racing! DAVE NEVISON! This is what happened.
Sent: 13 February 2009 14:34:19
To: (scamtips@hotmail.co.uk)
Gerry, I had to ring it - there was no other way.
The firm that answers is Eckoh Technology. They act on behalf of a number of organisations (including all the tipping lines) mobile phone ringtones etc... Their role is simply to explain what a particular service provides, in this case "tips".
I told them I was thinking of subscribing and I would like some history of their performance. They said that sort of information is not available. I asked how new subscribers are expected to form an opinion, and they said that most new subscribers come personally recommended from satisfied customers. I asked if I could find out from elsewhere how successful the tipsters were, and the lady said the best way was to read the adverts in the RP which explained about their previous winners such as 5/4, 11/10 etc... (she honestly believed this !!!)
And yes, it cost me £1.50 pm !!!
Gerry sez!..... Brrrr Brrrrr!...Hello regulator.......
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update 13th Feb 15.22
13 February 2009 14:40:59
(scamtips@hotmail.co.uk)
Hi Gerry. You may be interested in this. MOST INTERESTING.
The ASA upheld another complaint against a tipster, and its as recent as January this year
http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/adjudications/Public/TF_ADJ_45543.htm
Gerry sez:.....WOW!! .....MORE!!!.....MORE!!!!
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Earlier in the day I recieved an email which I suggested should be forwarded onto ppp, asa and trading standards. This was his reply.
Sent: 13 February 2009 15:15:55
To:(scamtips@hotmail.co.uk)
"I will do. This is as bad as Thompson importing some winners from another service to give him some credibility.
What Nevison is effectively doing is giving out tips at £1.50 a minute, but if they lose he says they don't count against him. However if they win he will be gloating for weeks and put them in adverts.
His advert today is making false claims in order to obtain a financial advantage for himself, and that is unfair.
Gerry sez....and those with 'lack of knowledge or inexperience' will never know!
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Sent: 13 February 2009 00:35:35
To: (scamtips@hotmail.co.uk)
Dave Nevison is cherry picking and producing some tasty figures.
Dave Nevison takes a half page advert in Thursday's Racing Post and claims 10 winners from 20 selections.
Dave Nevison then lists all the tips, both winners and losers, together with their SP's. And guess what ? It shows a profit of £204 to a £50 stake. But wait a minute .... in small print, it says these are "account bets" !!! What exactly is an "account bet" ?? Do callers have to have an account somewhere to back these horses ? Would a first time caller know what an "account bet" is ??
Dave Nevison is attempting to deceive the public by manipulating the figures.
On the 1st February, Dave Nevison claims 3 tips, all of which lost. That is not true. On the 1st February Dave, you gave out 9 tips and 6 lost. I know this for a fact because I telephoned you. If you had just given 3 tips, the call would have lasted a minute - instead it lasted 5 minutes meaning more premium rate money for your pocket.
On the 4th February, you claim only 1 selection. On the 8th February you claim only 1 selection. On that basis the call should have lasted just a few seconds - I bet it didn't.
Dave Nevison gives out numerous tips every day and the call lasts at least between 3 and 6 minutes @ £1.50.
It is no good Dave Nevison cherry picking at this stage in order to show a profit from something called an "account bet".
Every horse you gave as a tip should be on your list. The reason they are not there is because it would have produced a loss for you.
In future, just tip only the "account bet" and get off the phone within seconds to save the gullible caller some money, or include everything (including the rest of the losers) in your adverts and produce true figures.
By listing only the "account bets", you are massaging the figures to your advantage. And if you'd like me to remind you of the 3 other losers you gave on the 1st February that you didn't include in your list then get in touch and I'll remind you.
Gerry sez: Account bets? What are these?
To find out you will have to ring Nevisons helpline 0870 4874870.
You may at first think it is free. After all, you are only making an enquiry.
But it is not free. Aproximately 12 " away from the telehone number, the furthest distance possible, you will see that Nevison charges £1.50 per minute to help people.
So whilst talking to a human being Nevison is charging you £1.50 per minute. The rate charge in small print is rather misleading being so far apart.
If you ask for details of Nevisons performance you will be told that such information is not available.
If you ask how potential customers can form an opinion about Nevisons services, you will be told that most 090 customers come personally recommended from other satisfied customers. (Where do you go to find a satisfied 090 customer? Try the moon!)
If you ask from what other source you can try to find out exactyly how successful Nevison is you will be told to look at his results in The Racing Post.
If you look in The Racing Post (13th Feb) you will see Nevisons full page £6000 advert which shows nothing but a full page of winners. But you have already seen his winners, you want to see his losers. The reason you want to see his losers is because he may be trying the same 'winner only' trick as his tipping pal Channel 4 Racings Derek Thompson.
If you are still unhappy that you unable to find out more about Dave Nevison' 090tipping service, will have to ring Nevisons helpline 0870 4874870.
You may at first think it is free. After all, you are only making an enquiry.
But it is not free. Aproximately 12 " away from the telehone number, the furthest distance possible, you will see that Nevison charges £1.50 per minute to help people.
So whilst talking to a human being Nevison is charging you £1.50 per minute. The rate charge in small print is rather misleading being so far apart.
If you ask for details of Nevisons performance you will be told that such information is not available.
If you ask how potential customers can form an opinion about Nevisons services, you will be told that most 090 customers come personally recommended from other satisfied customers. (Where do you go to find a satisfied 090 customer? Try the moon!)
If you ask from what other source you can try to find out exactyly how successful Nevison is you will be told to look at his results in The Racing Post.
If you look in The Racing Post (13th Feb) you will see Nevisons full page £6000 advert which shows nothing but a full page of winners. But you have already seen his winners, you want to see his losers. The reason you want to see his losers is because he may be trying the same 'winner only' trick as his tipping pal Channel 4 Racings Derek Thompson.
And all I wanted was confirmation that Dave Nevisison has
"A BLOODY GOOD TIPPING SERVICE"
Why do you make it so difficult Nevison? Have you something to hide?
Thursday, 12 February 2009
£11,500 RP ad & more 100% success
Even by my standards,this is a lengthy read. But it needs to be told. I make no apologies
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Subject…. Channel 4 Racing’s Derek Thompson.
Complaint…. Fraudulent advertising claims in the Racing Post and on his website.
When phoning 090 tipping services, innocent and naive people little realise they are about to receive worthless (090) information from one of Derek Thompson’s LOSS making tipping services. Such naive people are unaware of the trickery and deception when they respond to his ‘winner only’ tipping adverts from such a high profile and respectable personality as Channel 4 Racings Derek Thompson. They believe him to be both decent and honest Far from it! My blog proves otherwise.
Occasionally, Thompson will place a full page 090 £1 per minute colour advert promoting his 090 service as he did on Saturday, the 7th April. That advert cost Thompson £11,500. I repeat. £11,500, How many calls at £1 per minute does he have to receive to pay for an advert so costly before he begins to make a profit? The cost of that full page advert alone, indicates the huge revenue that Thompson expects to make,
If we assume the average call charge is £5 then £11,500 divided by £5 = 2300 calls. We are now able to calculate how many calls Thompson requires before breaking even (2,300)…….. Lets say from such a big and impressive advert that another 1000 callers phone (the profit) ….1000 x £5 = £5,000. Not an unrealistic presumption. 090 tipping services make huge revenue for the tipster. Why else would they pay for a full page advert. So on the day Thompson makes a bundle…….
But what about the naive innocent and vulnerable people who put their trust in him. When they find out they have been conned do they complain. No they do not. Why? …“well it was only a few quid. Why worry about it” …Or maybe they realise they’ve been conned and feel too embarrassed to admit it … Or maybe if they do take the trouble (highly unlikely) and go to the various consumer protection authorities they may get an answer that says…. “Well we have only 3 other records of complaint on file and feel that that is not enough to start an enquiry. But we will make a note of it”…. Such negative feelings by people who have been conned by scam tipping adverts for “just a few quid” are but human nature. And the tipping sharks that daily pollute The Racing Post and Daily Mirror KNOW that, and profit and capitalize from it!!!!!! THAT IS THEIR STRENGTH!!!
Now take a look at Thomson's tipping inability in my blog archive “Thompson’s overall losses” and you will see proof that his clients will lose in the SHORT term. BIG TIME. I have a huge amount of evidence to prove that Thompson is the last person in the world who should be allowed to sell horse racing tips. He produces massive losses month after month, year after year, yet still he advertises full page adverts that indicate he is successful. He is! At the end of the day he banks big time. Not from backing his tips, Apart from many other failings, Channel 4 Racings Derek Thompson is not stupid. He never loses. But his clients, if they are lucky may make a couple of quid on a couple of days in the month. Does the customer complain to the authorities when he realises he has been tricked? No he does not. Why not? “Well it was only a fiver and it ‘aint worth worrying about”. And Thompson says…..NEXT PLEASE!.
I believe Derek Thompson is well aware of my blog. His RP/Web adverts have changed drastically over the past couple of weeks as to his fraudulent claims. The 70-1 winner he has been boasting about on his website for over three years. Now gone. He claimed the horse was a record breaker at 70-1. Its true price was 33-1. His website £1.50 090 telephone lines have had their numbers removed. He now has no telephone number at all in his website!
Now take a look at his website http://www.tommoracing.com/atdailytips.html You will see one of his many tipping services called “Maximum Bet,” is boasting a 100% success rate in 2008!!! That claim is still on his website. He is claiming in his “Maximum Bet Service” that he never tipped a loser in 2008. I believe that to be yet another lie. To go through the year without tipping a loser in any tipping service would surely be a RECORD BREAKER. The tragedy is that as a potential client I have no way of finding out if that is the truth. Thompson know’s this and takes advantage. When he reads or hears about the 100% success rate from wherever, it should be removed Unless of coarse every horse he tipped in 2008 won!! But I have yet to see such a claim.
Now scroll down to the lower half of the page and you will see a big blue and most impressive flash relating to YET ANOTHER 100% batch of winners. Not a loser in site!
As you would expect from one of Derek Thompson’s ‘winners only’ tipping services, the headline banner shouts “My Winners" & “Tommo’s Winners" We have yet another wonderful 100% Thompson success !!!!.....Not a loser to be seen!! All winners no losers. WOW!!!....I then took a closer look at the date. It said November 2006!!!!!! Today’s date is 11th Feb 2009 and Thompson is still boasting about 100% winners for NOVEMBER 2006!!!...2006!!!...2006!!! A closer look revealed he had listed the 31 days, and every day was a winning day, bar one, WOW!! But were all his winners odds on? He chooses not say! I wonder why? They probably were or as near as! Note that with all those wonderful winners he refuses to say what his profit was for the 31 days. I wonder why?
Just a thought. Why did the banner not say “My Losers” & “Tommo’s Losers?” The answer is so obvious and the omission of the losers reflects the ethics of the man. Immoral
CHANNEL 4 RACINGS DEREK THOMPSON IS HOOKED ON WINNERS……. EVERY ADVERT,…… EVERY LIST,….. EVERY STAT,….. EVER BOAST……TALK SPORT “TOMMO’S WINNERS”…..HIS WEB SHEET “TOMMO’S WINNERS……..
As Thomson says “100% Success” and that means Winners Winners Winners.
Now take a look at my blog archive “Thompson's overall LOSSES” See if you can find many of “TOMMO’S WINNERS”…….What Thompson tells you is trickery and deception, What you see in my blog is the reality.
Explanations are required.
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Subject…. Channel 4 Racing’s Derek Thompson.
Complaint…. Fraudulent advertising claims in the Racing Post and on his website.
When phoning 090 tipping services, innocent and naive people little realise they are about to receive worthless (090) information from one of Derek Thompson’s LOSS making tipping services. Such naive people are unaware of the trickery and deception when they respond to his ‘winner only’ tipping adverts from such a high profile and respectable personality as Channel 4 Racings Derek Thompson. They believe him to be both decent and honest Far from it! My blog proves otherwise.
Occasionally, Thompson will place a full page 090 £1 per minute colour advert promoting his 090 service as he did on Saturday, the 7th April. That advert cost Thompson £11,500. I repeat. £11,500, How many calls at £1 per minute does he have to receive to pay for an advert so costly before he begins to make a profit? The cost of that full page advert alone, indicates the huge revenue that Thompson expects to make,
If we assume the average call charge is £5 then £11,500 divided by £5 = 2300 calls. We are now able to calculate how many calls Thompson requires before breaking even (2,300)…….. Lets say from such a big and impressive advert that another 1000 callers phone (the profit) ….1000 x £5 = £5,000. Not an unrealistic presumption. 090 tipping services make huge revenue for the tipster. Why else would they pay for a full page advert. So on the day Thompson makes a bundle…….
But what about the naive innocent and vulnerable people who put their trust in him. When they find out they have been conned do they complain. No they do not. Why? …“well it was only a few quid. Why worry about it” …Or maybe they realise they’ve been conned and feel too embarrassed to admit it … Or maybe if they do take the trouble (highly unlikely) and go to the various consumer protection authorities they may get an answer that says…. “Well we have only 3 other records of complaint on file and feel that that is not enough to start an enquiry. But we will make a note of it”…. Such negative feelings by people who have been conned by scam tipping adverts for “just a few quid” are but human nature. And the tipping sharks that daily pollute The Racing Post and Daily Mirror KNOW that, and profit and capitalize from it!!!!!! THAT IS THEIR STRENGTH!!!
Now take a look at Thomson's tipping inability in my blog archive “Thompson’s overall losses” and you will see proof that his clients will lose in the SHORT term. BIG TIME. I have a huge amount of evidence to prove that Thompson is the last person in the world who should be allowed to sell horse racing tips. He produces massive losses month after month, year after year, yet still he advertises full page adverts that indicate he is successful. He is! At the end of the day he banks big time. Not from backing his tips, Apart from many other failings, Channel 4 Racings Derek Thompson is not stupid. He never loses. But his clients, if they are lucky may make a couple of quid on a couple of days in the month. Does the customer complain to the authorities when he realises he has been tricked? No he does not. Why not? “Well it was only a fiver and it ‘aint worth worrying about”. And Thompson says…..NEXT PLEASE!.
I believe Derek Thompson is well aware of my blog. His RP/Web adverts have changed drastically over the past couple of weeks as to his fraudulent claims. The 70-1 winner he has been boasting about on his website for over three years. Now gone. He claimed the horse was a record breaker at 70-1. Its true price was 33-1. His website £1.50 090 telephone lines have had their numbers removed. He now has no telephone number at all in his website!
Now take a look at his website http://www.tommoracing.com/atdailytips.html You will see one of his many tipping services called “Maximum Bet,” is boasting a 100% success rate in 2008!!! That claim is still on his website. He is claiming in his “Maximum Bet Service” that he never tipped a loser in 2008. I believe that to be yet another lie. To go through the year without tipping a loser in any tipping service would surely be a RECORD BREAKER. The tragedy is that as a potential client I have no way of finding out if that is the truth. Thompson know’s this and takes advantage. When he reads or hears about the 100% success rate from wherever, it should be removed Unless of coarse every horse he tipped in 2008 won!! But I have yet to see such a claim.
Now scroll down to the lower half of the page and you will see a big blue and most impressive flash relating to YET ANOTHER 100% batch of winners. Not a loser in site!
As you would expect from one of Derek Thompson’s ‘winners only’ tipping services, the headline banner shouts “My Winners" & “Tommo’s Winners" We have yet another wonderful 100% Thompson success !!!!.....Not a loser to be seen!! All winners no losers. WOW!!!....I then took a closer look at the date. It said November 2006!!!!!! Today’s date is 11th Feb 2009 and Thompson is still boasting about 100% winners for NOVEMBER 2006!!!...2006!!!...2006!!! A closer look revealed he had listed the 31 days, and every day was a winning day, bar one, WOW!! But were all his winners odds on? He chooses not say! I wonder why? They probably were or as near as! Note that with all those wonderful winners he refuses to say what his profit was for the 31 days. I wonder why?
Just a thought. Why did the banner not say “My Losers” & “Tommo’s Losers?” The answer is so obvious and the omission of the losers reflects the ethics of the man. Immoral
CHANNEL 4 RACINGS DEREK THOMPSON IS HOOKED ON WINNERS……. EVERY ADVERT,…… EVERY LIST,….. EVERY STAT,….. EVER BOAST……TALK SPORT “TOMMO’S WINNERS”…..HIS WEB SHEET “TOMMO’S WINNERS……..
As Thomson says “100% Success” and that means Winners Winners Winners.
Now take a look at my blog archive “Thompson's overall LOSSES” See if you can find many of “TOMMO’S WINNERS”…….What Thompson tells you is trickery and deception, What you see in my blog is the reality.
Explanations are required.
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