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HELP NEEDED TO GET THIS ON WIKIPEDEA
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FROM THE OBSERVER SPORT. 17 JUN 01
Derek Thompson: 89 tips 72 losers
guardian.co.uk, Sunday 17 June 2001 17.41 BST
Article history
TOMMO THE TERRIBLE TIPSTER 89 tips … 72 losers. Observer Sport called Thompson's tipping line every day for four consecutive weeks. Over the four weeks, Thompson's tips resulted in a loss of £1,846.05, which rose to £1,921.37 with the cost of calls. Fourteen of Thompson's 17 winners were returned at 3-1 or worse and five were odds-on. Thompson's advice to readers is 'Never bet odds-on, it's as simple as that.' On 11 May, Thompson tipped two 4-6 'odds on' shots, both of which were beaten. Thompson defended his tipping line by saying 'If people don't like the service, then don't ring' Asked how much he thought callers should have on his tips, he said, 'At the most, a fiver"
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Could any good guy that supports the crusade against scam tipping outfits like Thompson's and Nevison's, post the above Observer article "Tommo The Terrible Tipster" in Wikipedea for me please. I tried having a go myself, but as a poacher of salmon I'm unbeatable but with gizmo stuff, I'm clueless - it just 'aint my scene. Gawd knows how I managed to get this far with me blog. I cannot see any reason for Wikipedia to reject the article as the content is truthful and provable to the very last word. It is not vindictive, vicious, obscene, defamatory, untruthful, sarcastic or malicious. It just compacts the facts and tells the truth. The facts are 100% provable as taken from The Observer newspaper article.
The article is a factual documentation of what to expect were you to be duped or tricked into joining any one of "TV CHANNEL 4 RACING'S TOMMO" many tipping services. You have been warned! I see no reason for the evidence not to be placed in Wikipedia. It only tels the truth. And the truth should be told. Unlike the countless losers that both Nevison and Thompson produce but never tell!
WIKIPEDIA ANYBODY???? It needs telling'
Saturday 31 January 2009
Friday 30 January 2009
Birkdale re wiki ban. Restored
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GREAT NEWS FOR THE GOOD GUYS
Common sense prevails. The other night Birkdale put up a post about Derek Thompson's atrocious and never ending huge losses on Wikipedia. After an hour or so Wikipedia withdrew it. Birkdale challenged Wikipedia as to the withdrawal and the verbal exchanges became heated. As a result Wikipedia banned Birdale from posting on Thompson's Wiki page. Now there is no more honest and decent guy than Birkdale, That is why Betfair gave him a life ban.
Birkdale challenged Wiki and asked them to look at his presentation again. To there credit they did. I am pleased to say that Wikipedia gave favouably to Birdales request. Unlike Betfair! Maybe if his entry is slighty modified to be within their guidlines, they may reconsider.....The TRUTH NEEDS TO BE TOLD
GREAT NEWS FOR THE GOOD GUYS
Common sense prevails. The other night Birkdale put up a post about Derek Thompson's atrocious and never ending huge losses on Wikipedia. After an hour or so Wikipedia withdrew it. Birkdale challenged Wikipedia as to the withdrawal and the verbal exchanges became heated. As a result Wikipedia banned Birdale from posting on Thompson's Wiki page. Now there is no more honest and decent guy than Birkdale, That is why Betfair gave him a life ban.
Birkdale challenged Wiki and asked them to look at his presentation again. To there credit they did. I am pleased to say that Wikipedia gave favouably to Birdales request. Unlike Betfair! Maybe if his entry is slighty modified to be within their guidlines, they may reconsider.....The TRUTH NEEDS TO BE TOLD
NEVISONS ad bloody stinks!
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A PAGE FULL OF BLOODY CRAP
You may wonder why I liberality use the word "bloody" so many times in this post. It is a mimic of the word "bloody" as used by the so called Professional racing tipster Dave Nevison. His advert claims that he operates a "Bloody" good tipping service. And we are supposed to believe it is true. It is my belief that his service is NO "Bloody good" .... But how can I find out. He chooses not to show his losers. He chooses not to show his overall profit & loss figures. But surely, if the service was so "BLOODY GOOD" he would want to show them. Like all 090 racing tipsters he is almost certainly running at a loss since day 1. BUT HE REFUSES TO TELL US THAT. Instead, like all his other 090 trickster tipsters he chooses to pick out a few winners and ram them down our throats. If his service was "A Bloody Good Service" and making long term profits from day 1, why does he not say? I will be asking questions as to why tipsters mislead with such enticing adverts that indicate the service is "Bloody Good" when I believe it to be bloody bad. Misleading by suggestion. Watch this space!
Question for Nevison. How do I know your 090 tipping service is a "Bloody good" one. It may be so. If so. PROVE IT!!!! Or maybe you think that I am not entitled to know. But you do want my money though. Don't you?....Think about it Nevison. Think about it!
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NEVISON HAS GOT ONE FULL RP PAGE OF BLOODY WINNERS
Similar like wot his pal Thompson does.
WINNERS WINNERS WINNERS NOTHING BUT BLOODY WINNERS
slick, trick, mislead and con!!
THATS THE NAME OF THE BLOODY GAME ISN'T IT NEVISON?
slick, trick, mislead and bloody con!!
TO HELL WITH HONESTY, DECENCY AND MORALITY
Lets just keep tricking the good guys
OH HOW BLOODY TRICKY YOU ARE NEVISON
just like your old pal Thompson
THOMPSON IS SMALL FRY NOW NEVISON IN 090 TIPPING!
with a full page scam-ad today, you scream out:-
THE KING IS DEAD, LONG LIVE THE KING
the new king of 090 con racing tipsters. Dave Nevison!
YOU ARE NOW THE KING OF MISLEADING 090 TIPSTERS
you are now the king of scam-ads
YOU ARE NOW NEVISON.....KING CON 090..... HIMSELF
ok Nevison lets ask some bloody questions
WILL WE BE SEEING A FULL PAGE RP AD OF LOSERS TOMORROW?
if not why not?
COULD IT BE YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE?
like 976 losers maybe, think about it.
YOUR CLIENTS DO NOT KNOW DO THEY. BUT DO I????
Of course you can always prove me wrong by telling how many.
YOU ARE TRUMPETED AS A PROFESIONAL. YOU ARE NEVISON
A professional 090 conman whose profession is deception
THINK ABOUT IT NEVISON....THINK ABOUT IT
OK lets look at it from another angle Nevison.
EVER HEARD OF A BETTING BANK. OF COURSE YOU HAVE
after all you are a professional aren't you Nevison
AND ALL PRO'S ADVISE PUNTERS TO BET VIA A BETTING BANK
don't they NEVISON!!! But I don't see one in your advert
IS THERE A REASON FOR SUCH A VERY IMPORTANT OMISSION?
perhaps you forgot.
WHY IS IT NEVISON THAT NO 090 TIPSTERS SHOW PROFIT AND LOSSES.
oops sorry!! silly me. You did show a profit the other day
YOU SAID "17 POINTS PROFIT IN THE LAST 10 DAYS"
that is fantastic tipping pal, Fantastic.
IS THERE ANYWHERE THAT I CAN GO TO CHECK IT OUT NEVISON
and I don;t mean The Racing Post or The Trinity Mirror Group
OF COURSE I CAN'T. HOW CONVENIENT
how convenient that the good guys can't see for themselves.
IT'S GEARED UP TO PROTECT THE CON MEN. SOD THE BLOODY GOOD GUY
do you not agree with me Nevison. Of course you do
THEN WHY DO IT, AAAAAAAAH I KNOW!!!!! EASY MONEY
just stick in a pin and sit and watch the till spill.
NOW LETS TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR ADVERT THE OTHER DAY
"17 points profit in 10 days." Why 10 days Nevison?
why not 20 days, Why not 30 days, why not 40 days
WHY NOT 50 DAYS, WHY NOT 60 DAYS, WHY NOT 70 DAYS
what's so bloody special about 10 days?
COULD IT BE SOMETHING TO DO WITH, MISLEADING, DECEIT,
fraud, con, scam, dishonest, imoral, and unethical
OR HAS IT GOT SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE NUMBER 976. MAYBE!
of course I may have made a mistake,
JUST PUT UP YOUR EXACT LOSERS SINCE DAY 1.
and while you are at it, show your 090 p/L figures to date
OR MAYBE LIKE ALL SCAM 090 TIPSTERS
you have something to hide!!! Have you Nevison, have you?
PRO 090 RACING TIPSTER DAVID NEVISON MISLEADS & DECEIVES
AS THEY ALL DO!!!!
A PAGE FULL OF BLOODY CRAP
You may wonder why I liberality use the word "bloody" so many times in this post. It is a mimic of the word "bloody" as used by the so called Professional racing tipster Dave Nevison. His advert claims that he operates a "Bloody" good tipping service. And we are supposed to believe it is true. It is my belief that his service is NO "Bloody good" .... But how can I find out. He chooses not to show his losers. He chooses not to show his overall profit & loss figures. But surely, if the service was so "BLOODY GOOD" he would want to show them. Like all 090 racing tipsters he is almost certainly running at a loss since day 1. BUT HE REFUSES TO TELL US THAT. Instead, like all his other 090 trickster tipsters he chooses to pick out a few winners and ram them down our throats. If his service was "A Bloody Good Service" and making long term profits from day 1, why does he not say? I will be asking questions as to why tipsters mislead with such enticing adverts that indicate the service is "Bloody Good" when I believe it to be bloody bad. Misleading by suggestion. Watch this space!
Question for Nevison. How do I know your 090 tipping service is a "Bloody good" one. It may be so. If so. PROVE IT!!!! Or maybe you think that I am not entitled to know. But you do want my money though. Don't you?....Think about it Nevison. Think about it!
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NEVISON HAS GOT ONE FULL RP PAGE OF BLOODY WINNERS
Similar like wot his pal Thompson does.
WINNERS WINNERS WINNERS NOTHING BUT BLOODY WINNERS
slick, trick, mislead and con!!
THATS THE NAME OF THE BLOODY GAME ISN'T IT NEVISON?
slick, trick, mislead and bloody con!!
TO HELL WITH HONESTY, DECENCY AND MORALITY
Lets just keep tricking the good guys
OH HOW BLOODY TRICKY YOU ARE NEVISON
just like your old pal Thompson
THOMPSON IS SMALL FRY NOW NEVISON IN 090 TIPPING!
with a full page scam-ad today, you scream out:-
THE KING IS DEAD, LONG LIVE THE KING
the new king of 090 con racing tipsters. Dave Nevison!
YOU ARE NOW THE KING OF MISLEADING 090 TIPSTERS
you are now the king of scam-ads
YOU ARE NOW NEVISON.....KING CON 090..... HIMSELF
ok Nevison lets ask some bloody questions
WILL WE BE SEEING A FULL PAGE RP AD OF LOSERS TOMORROW?
if not why not?
COULD IT BE YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE?
like 976 losers maybe, think about it.
YOUR CLIENTS DO NOT KNOW DO THEY. BUT DO I????
Of course you can always prove me wrong by telling how many.
YOU ARE TRUMPETED AS A PROFESIONAL. YOU ARE NEVISON
A professional 090 conman whose profession is deception
THINK ABOUT IT NEVISON....THINK ABOUT IT
OK lets look at it from another angle Nevison.
EVER HEARD OF A BETTING BANK. OF COURSE YOU HAVE
after all you are a professional aren't you Nevison
AND ALL PRO'S ADVISE PUNTERS TO BET VIA A BETTING BANK
don't they NEVISON!!! But I don't see one in your advert
IS THERE A REASON FOR SUCH A VERY IMPORTANT OMISSION?
perhaps you forgot.
WHY IS IT NEVISON THAT NO 090 TIPSTERS SHOW PROFIT AND LOSSES.
oops sorry!! silly me. You did show a profit the other day
YOU SAID "17 POINTS PROFIT IN THE LAST 10 DAYS"
that is fantastic tipping pal, Fantastic.
IS THERE ANYWHERE THAT I CAN GO TO CHECK IT OUT NEVISON
and I don;t mean The Racing Post or The Trinity Mirror Group
OF COURSE I CAN'T. HOW CONVENIENT
how convenient that the good guys can't see for themselves.
IT'S GEARED UP TO PROTECT THE CON MEN. SOD THE BLOODY GOOD GUY
do you not agree with me Nevison. Of course you do
THEN WHY DO IT, AAAAAAAAH I KNOW!!!!! EASY MONEY
just stick in a pin and sit and watch the till spill.
NOW LETS TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR ADVERT THE OTHER DAY
"17 points profit in 10 days." Why 10 days Nevison?
why not 20 days, Why not 30 days, why not 40 days
WHY NOT 50 DAYS, WHY NOT 60 DAYS, WHY NOT 70 DAYS
what's so bloody special about 10 days?
COULD IT BE SOMETHING TO DO WITH, MISLEADING, DECEIT,
fraud, con, scam, dishonest, imoral, and unethical
OR HAS IT GOT SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE NUMBER 976. MAYBE!
of course I may have made a mistake,
JUST PUT UP YOUR EXACT LOSERS SINCE DAY 1.
and while you are at it, show your 090 p/L figures to date
OR MAYBE LIKE ALL SCAM 090 TIPSTERS
you have something to hide!!! Have you Nevison, have you?
PRO 090 RACING TIPSTER DAVID NEVISON MISLEADS & DECEIVES
AS THEY ALL DO!!!!
Thursday 29 January 2009
Wikipedia. It lasted about 10 mins
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TAKEN FROM WIKIPEDIA .... It lasted about 10 minutes.... 1.01 sez that one will eventually stick........But the noise is getting louder.
The bold script in brackets are my comments
"January 2009 proved to be a significant month for Thompson as the website promoting his racing "tips" was forced to remove misleading claims , including winners tipped over 3 years previously. This will doutless result in a reduced income for him (I most certainly hope so), but at least he will rest easier knowing that in some small way racing has a cleaner image (from the rogue tipster aspect, it most certainly will do). It is not yet known what action will be taken regarding claims by unsuspecting callers to his premium rate numbers that they were misled by the advertising on his website (ABSOLUTELY TRUE AND BIG TIME), although industry sources have suggested claims could be in the "tens of thousands of pounds".(more please!) It seems it could be "One for the judge" (I hope so. payback time for the good guys!)
TAKEN FROM WIKIPEDIA .... It lasted about 10 minutes.... 1.01 sez that one will eventually stick........But the noise is getting louder.
The bold script in brackets are my comments
"January 2009 proved to be a significant month for Thompson as the website promoting his racing "tips" was forced to remove misleading claims , including winners tipped over 3 years previously. This will doutless result in a reduced income for him (I most certainly hope so), but at least he will rest easier knowing that in some small way racing has a cleaner image (from the rogue tipster aspect, it most certainly will do). It is not yet known what action will be taken regarding claims by unsuspecting callers to his premium rate numbers that they were misled by the advertising on his website (ABSOLUTELY TRUE AND BIG TIME), although industry sources have suggested claims could be in the "tens of thousands of pounds".(more please!) It seems it could be "One for the judge" (I hope so. payback time for the good guys!)
web scam-ad CHANGED...WHY!!!
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THIS PAGE RELATES TO MY PPP ARCHIVE LETTER:-
"THOMPSON'S SCAM-AD WEBSITE"
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GOTCHA
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh ha ha ha Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh
Just had a butchers Hook at his WEBSITE!!!!!
There 'aint a telephone number in site!!!!!!
Not even a slick trick 090 number!!!!!!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh ha ha ha ha Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
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GOTCHA THOMPSON.....
ALAN BRAZIL TALK SPORT
On Thompson's website his pal ALAN BRAZIL TALK SPORT sez:- ...... "The Derek Thompson Racing Club is more than just a tipping service. From its comprehensive online members enclosure to tips being delivered straight to your inbox. The Derek Thompson Racing Club provides its members with an all-round premium racing service"
WOW!!! ALAN BRAZIL TALK SPORT!!!!! WOW!!!
NOT THE ALLAN BRAZIL OF TALK SPORT FAME?!!!"WOW!!!
But ALLEN TALK SPORT!....I want to join Thompson's racing club!!!......But he removed every single telephone number from his web site a couple of days ago!!.... There is not even a trick 090 number for me to phone at £1.50 per minute!!!....
Is there any reason for that ALLAN BRAZIL TALK SPORT?!!!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh ha ha ha Haaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!
Hey!! ALLEN BRAZIL TALK SPORT! If you see yer old pal Tommo ask him to take his ear out of the hole in the ground that he's got his head stuck in!!!. He 'aint boasted a winner for over 2 weeks, not even one of his special odds on "etc etc and many many more's" He don't even boast about the winner he had in OCTOBER 2005 no more!!!!!!!! That was the 70-1 three years and three month stretched winner that he only stopped gloating about a couple of days ago, just after I drew attention to it in me blog!.......Is there any reason ALLAN BRAZIL TALK SPORT he's not showing his recent winners? Have a word in his ear if you can find it and ask him ..............WHY?
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaggh!!!
OY!!....ALAN BRAZIL TALK SPORT!!!.... You may be wondering why I call you ALAN BRAZIL TALK SPORT!. Well if you take a shufty in yer old pals website testimonials....that is what you call yourself!... ALAN BRAZIL TALK SPORT.....What a strange name.
Hey!! ....ALAN BRAZIL TALK SPORT Do you back all Thompson's tips that he sticks in yer "inbox" ........... Was that you I saw the other day washing dishes at TALK SPORT HQ?
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!!
Oy Thompson!!! I predicted you would remove your scam ad boasts from yer website and you obliged just a couple of days ago. I tipped that result proper didn't I? ......Whats next. The answer could lie within!!......Think about it!
It is my claim that Derek Thompson is not a fit person to take money from honest people via his dishonest tips. He is not a fit person to be in the tipping industy. Has he not proved that beyond any shadow of doubt! YES!!! He most certainly has!
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6.51 29th Jan
Hi there good guys.....I have been BIG TIME busy today speaking to BIG TIME people.
I 'aint sayin' to much coz bad guys is peepin' in at all me junk. Got a lot of script to do tonight, "evidence," so will only stick in an odd comment or two to cheer meself up.
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GOTCHA 1
KINNAIRD the 70-1 winner you have been gloating about in your scam website for god knows how long (2005 I believe!).....GONE!!....WHY?
GOTCHA 2
KINNAIRD the 70-1 winner that you have been gloating about which was actually 33-1 for god knows how long ....GONE!!.....WHY?
GOTCHA 3
KINNAIRD the 70-1 winner that you boasted as winning in OCTOBER for god knows how long......GONE.....WHY?
GOTCHA 4
KINNAIRD the 70-1 winner that you boasted as winning in OCTOBER. It did. OCTOBER 2005.....gone.....WHY??
GOTCHA 5
KINNAIRD the 70-1 winner that you boasted has probably been in that scam website since it won in OCTOBER 2005.....GONE....WHY!
GOTCHA 6
YOU ARE NOW SHOWING THEM FLASH WINNERS WITH A YEAR. You never did before....WHY NOW?
GOTCHA 7
THE TRINITY MIRROR GROUP PROOFING TAG GONE......WHY?
GOTCHA 8
That nasty little trick with 090 telephone (now gone) and the yellow sick box winners. GONE. They had nothing to do with each other but your trick advert made them look as though they were related. They were not. Suggestion by visual association.....Trickery!!
WHY DID YOU NOT SHOW YOUR 70-1 2005 WINNER KINNAIRD (now gone!)WITH EITHER A MONTH OR A YEAR ATTACHED.... DID YOU NOT REALISE THAT YOUR CUSTOMERS WOULD NATURALLY THINK IT WON IN OCTOBER 2008. BUT YOU KNEW DIDN'T YOU? YOU KNEW IT WAS A WINNER THAT YOU TIPPED IN 2005 DIDN'T YOU? AFTER ALL YOU TIPPED IT. AND IN 2008,THREE YEARS LATER, YOU WERE STILL BOASTING ABOUT IT, AND YOUR 2008 CLIENTS THOUGHT IT WAS AN OCTOBER 2008 WINNER. DIDN'T THEY?????????????????????????!!!!!!!!
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NOW TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE MORE THE BEST GOTCHA OF THE LOT. THE 090 TELEPHONE AND YELLOW WINNERS FLASH TRICK.
The other night I advised good guys to log into Thompson's website and take a copy of his home page. The content of that page (scam page) was going to get shredded by none other than old Gerry Atric himself within a couple of days. I advised that several copies be taken as they would become collectors items and become of more value than Thompson's worthless tips.
If you look at the website today the content of the telephone and the yellow sick box has changed drasticly. Most has been explained BUT!!! This is by far the best trick of all. Tap into Thompson's web site now and take a look at how cozy the telephone and the yellow sick box are! Nice and close, nice and cosy. Now look at that telephone. There is no number on it today is there? But a couple of days ago it had a premium rate 090 number and a note saying £1.50 per minute! So when you look at all those wonderfull OCTOBER winners he has in the yellow sick box (including the 70-1 shot which has since been removed) you narurally associate one with the other. Look carefully at the closeness and placenent of the phone and sick box. You then think that with all them cracking winners why not ring the number on the phone and cash in!
WRONG!!! YOU HAVE BEEN TRICKED!!! (I believe even Birkdale thought they were related because we discussed it on MoM's thread.) I also believe that in all the years that visual trick has been running there must have been thousands and thousands (possibly tens of thousands) of people who did NOT REALISE THE PHONE AND THE SICK BOX WONDERFULL RESULTS WERE UN-RELATED...... So the trick worked. You saw the yellow sick box of wonderful winners and you wanted some of the action and you pick up the phone and ring the 090 £1.50 per minute PRS number to get the winners like there were in the sick box. YOU HAVE BEEN VISUALY MISLEAD! ..... Almost as good as the three card trick!!! .....Very similar to the trick he pulled on Xma eve. Misleading by visualy false suggestion
Question? Will the thousands and thousands of people who were tricked by the visual deception get their money back?
QUESTION? How many of the knew the wonderful winners were not related to the phone number they were ringing? Probably none!!
Question? How many complained when they were given a handfull of losers for their £5outlay? Probably none! Now ask why not? Answer "well it was only a fiver and who complains about losing a few quid anyway".....Those few quids make the likes of Derek Thomson very rich people by exploiting those who place their trust in them
But the good news is that the trick is no more. (AT THE MOMENT) As I write this blog there is not a phone to be seen in Thompson's website. They all dissapeared a couple of days ago. Will they be back!!!......Time alone will tell!
AT LAST!!!!!!!......AT LAST!!!!!!.....THE GOOD GUYS HAVE GOT A RESULT!!! THERES MORE TO COME....A LOT MORE!!!
OY BETFAIR!!!! CAN ME AND BIRKDALE HAVE OUR BALL BACK PLEASE!!!!
AAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh ha ha ha Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!!!!
Just a thought! I have mentioned it before but I must know....Only a quicky!.....Will the guys that phoned your 090 number be getting their money back?....False pretences and all that?......Hmmmm! I'll have to ask the PPP and ASA about that one!!!
THIS PAGE RELATES TO MY PPP ARCHIVE LETTER:-
"THOMPSON'S SCAM-AD WEBSITE"
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GOTCHA
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh ha ha ha Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh
Just had a butchers Hook at his WEBSITE!!!!!
There 'aint a telephone number in site!!!!!!
Not even a slick trick 090 number!!!!!!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh ha ha ha ha Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
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GOTCHA THOMPSON.....
ALAN BRAZIL TALK SPORT
On Thompson's website his pal ALAN BRAZIL TALK SPORT sez:- ...... "The Derek Thompson Racing Club is more than just a tipping service. From its comprehensive online members enclosure to tips being delivered straight to your inbox. The Derek Thompson Racing Club provides its members with an all-round premium racing service"
WOW!!! ALAN BRAZIL TALK SPORT!!!!! WOW!!!
NOT THE ALLAN BRAZIL OF TALK SPORT FAME?!!!"WOW!!!
But ALLEN TALK SPORT!....I want to join Thompson's racing club!!!......But he removed every single telephone number from his web site a couple of days ago!!.... There is not even a trick 090 number for me to phone at £1.50 per minute!!!....
Is there any reason for that ALLAN BRAZIL TALK SPORT?!!!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh ha ha ha Haaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!
Hey!! ALLEN BRAZIL TALK SPORT! If you see yer old pal Tommo ask him to take his ear out of the hole in the ground that he's got his head stuck in!!!. He 'aint boasted a winner for over 2 weeks, not even one of his special odds on "etc etc and many many more's" He don't even boast about the winner he had in OCTOBER 2005 no more!!!!!!!! That was the 70-1 three years and three month stretched winner that he only stopped gloating about a couple of days ago, just after I drew attention to it in me blog!.......Is there any reason ALLAN BRAZIL TALK SPORT he's not showing his recent winners? Have a word in his ear if you can find it and ask him ..............WHY?
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaggh!!!
OY!!....ALAN BRAZIL TALK SPORT!!!.... You may be wondering why I call you ALAN BRAZIL TALK SPORT!. Well if you take a shufty in yer old pals website testimonials....that is what you call yourself!... ALAN BRAZIL TALK SPORT.....What a strange name.
Hey!! ....ALAN BRAZIL TALK SPORT Do you back all Thompson's tips that he sticks in yer "inbox" ........... Was that you I saw the other day washing dishes at TALK SPORT HQ?
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!!
Oy Thompson!!! I predicted you would remove your scam ad boasts from yer website and you obliged just a couple of days ago. I tipped that result proper didn't I? ......Whats next. The answer could lie within!!......Think about it!
It is my claim that Derek Thompson is not a fit person to take money from honest people via his dishonest tips. He is not a fit person to be in the tipping industy. Has he not proved that beyond any shadow of doubt! YES!!! He most certainly has!
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6.51 29th Jan
Hi there good guys.....I have been BIG TIME busy today speaking to BIG TIME people.
I 'aint sayin' to much coz bad guys is peepin' in at all me junk. Got a lot of script to do tonight, "evidence," so will only stick in an odd comment or two to cheer meself up.
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GOTCHA 1
KINNAIRD the 70-1 winner you have been gloating about in your scam website for god knows how long (2005 I believe!).....GONE!!....WHY?
GOTCHA 2
KINNAIRD the 70-1 winner that you have been gloating about which was actually 33-1 for god knows how long ....GONE!!.....WHY?
GOTCHA 3
KINNAIRD the 70-1 winner that you boasted as winning in OCTOBER for god knows how long......GONE.....WHY?
GOTCHA 4
KINNAIRD the 70-1 winner that you boasted as winning in OCTOBER. It did. OCTOBER 2005.....gone.....WHY??
GOTCHA 5
KINNAIRD the 70-1 winner that you boasted has probably been in that scam website since it won in OCTOBER 2005.....GONE....WHY!
GOTCHA 6
YOU ARE NOW SHOWING THEM FLASH WINNERS WITH A YEAR. You never did before....WHY NOW?
GOTCHA 7
THE TRINITY MIRROR GROUP PROOFING TAG GONE......WHY?
GOTCHA 8
That nasty little trick with 090 telephone (now gone) and the yellow sick box winners. GONE. They had nothing to do with each other but your trick advert made them look as though they were related. They were not. Suggestion by visual association.....Trickery!!
WHY DID YOU NOT SHOW YOUR 70-1 2005 WINNER KINNAIRD (now gone!)WITH EITHER A MONTH OR A YEAR ATTACHED.... DID YOU NOT REALISE THAT YOUR CUSTOMERS WOULD NATURALLY THINK IT WON IN OCTOBER 2008. BUT YOU KNEW DIDN'T YOU? YOU KNEW IT WAS A WINNER THAT YOU TIPPED IN 2005 DIDN'T YOU? AFTER ALL YOU TIPPED IT. AND IN 2008,THREE YEARS LATER, YOU WERE STILL BOASTING ABOUT IT, AND YOUR 2008 CLIENTS THOUGHT IT WAS AN OCTOBER 2008 WINNER. DIDN'T THEY?????????????????????????!!!!!!!!
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NOW TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE MORE THE BEST GOTCHA OF THE LOT. THE 090 TELEPHONE AND YELLOW WINNERS FLASH TRICK.
The other night I advised good guys to log into Thompson's website and take a copy of his home page. The content of that page (scam page) was going to get shredded by none other than old Gerry Atric himself within a couple of days. I advised that several copies be taken as they would become collectors items and become of more value than Thompson's worthless tips.
If you look at the website today the content of the telephone and the yellow sick box has changed drasticly. Most has been explained BUT!!! This is by far the best trick of all. Tap into Thompson's web site now and take a look at how cozy the telephone and the yellow sick box are! Nice and close, nice and cosy. Now look at that telephone. There is no number on it today is there? But a couple of days ago it had a premium rate 090 number and a note saying £1.50 per minute! So when you look at all those wonderfull OCTOBER winners he has in the yellow sick box (including the 70-1 shot which has since been removed) you narurally associate one with the other. Look carefully at the closeness and placenent of the phone and sick box. You then think that with all them cracking winners why not ring the number on the phone and cash in!
WRONG!!! YOU HAVE BEEN TRICKED!!! (I believe even Birkdale thought they were related because we discussed it on MoM's thread.) I also believe that in all the years that visual trick has been running there must have been thousands and thousands (possibly tens of thousands) of people who did NOT REALISE THE PHONE AND THE SICK BOX WONDERFULL RESULTS WERE UN-RELATED...... So the trick worked. You saw the yellow sick box of wonderful winners and you wanted some of the action and you pick up the phone and ring the 090 £1.50 per minute PRS number to get the winners like there were in the sick box. YOU HAVE BEEN VISUALY MISLEAD! ..... Almost as good as the three card trick!!! .....Very similar to the trick he pulled on Xma eve. Misleading by visualy false suggestion
Question? Will the thousands and thousands of people who were tricked by the visual deception get their money back?
QUESTION? How many of the knew the wonderful winners were not related to the phone number they were ringing? Probably none!!
Question? How many complained when they were given a handfull of losers for their £5outlay? Probably none! Now ask why not? Answer "well it was only a fiver and who complains about losing a few quid anyway".....Those few quids make the likes of Derek Thomson very rich people by exploiting those who place their trust in them
But the good news is that the trick is no more. (AT THE MOMENT) As I write this blog there is not a phone to be seen in Thompson's website. They all dissapeared a couple of days ago. Will they be back!!!......Time alone will tell!
AT LAST!!!!!!!......AT LAST!!!!!!.....THE GOOD GUYS HAVE GOT A RESULT!!! THERES MORE TO COME....A LOT MORE!!!
OY BETFAIR!!!! CAN ME AND BIRKDALE HAVE OUR BALL BACK PLEASE!!!!
AAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh ha ha ha Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!!!!
Just a thought! I have mentioned it before but I must know....Only a quicky!.....Will the guys that phoned your 090 number be getting their money back?....False pretences and all that?......Hmmmm! I'll have to ask the PPP and ASA about that one!!!
THOMPSONS scam-ad WEBSITE
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Me computer went wrong last night...again ... and I could not update me "Sensational" post.... Got a geezer coming round in a minute to sort it proper.... In the meantime here' a juicy story to be getting on with........ THE NAILER???
Its part of a letter that I am sending to ALL authorities..... AND I WANT RESULTS AND ANSWERS
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DEREK THOMPSON’S WEBSITE CODE VIOLATIONS
And finally sir. You will see in the yellow box (Derek Thompson's Website) a horse called Kinnaird shown at 70-1. That price is over twice the starting price of 33-1…. Misleading by deception. Code violation. Starting prices only should be shown.
The 090 advert adjacent to the yellow box of ‘winners only’ suggests that the winners came from that 090 service. I believe they did not. In fact I am almost certain they did not! Misleading by visual suggestion and deception plus code violation.
You will see that Thompson lists a load of flashy prices in the yellow box but fails to indicate the name of any horse, the date or where raced. (except the eye catching 70-1 trick price winner) He throws a load of fancy prices in a box and shows nothing to connect them with any race. All prices are un-provable to the reader. The prices look impressive and tempting and do tempt, but where did they come from? Is the purchaser of his tips not entitled to know at least the name of the related horse? Misleading by omission and misleading visual suggestion.
Until recently The Trinity Mirror Group showed a tag that indicated they proofed Thompson’s selections. The tag has now recently been removed. The removal indicates to the customer that there may be reasons for so doing. If there are reasons, is the customer not entitled to know why TMG stopped proofing?
The Trinity Mirror Group own the Racing Post. I believe Thompson is not charged for his adverts in that paper. They all take a share of the 090 revenue. All three have financially linked interests in the tipsters advert. Hardly independent are they? One might say that they have a rather cosy relationship.
My last complaint is the most serious of all and after reading it sir, I would challenge you to contradict me. It concerns the only horse Thompson mentions on his web-page. Kinnaird 70-1 in the yellow box. If you look in the yellow box you will see it was tipped in October with all the rest of the winners that he boasts. 3 months back. That is a long stretch to promote past winners even by Derek Thompson’s standards. As Kinnaird was the only horse mentioned in the website I decided to check it out to see what it’s SP was.
I checked October 2008……. No Kinnaird
I checked October 2007…….. No Kinnaird
I checked October 2006…….. No Kinnaird
I checked October 2005……...And there it was KINNAIRD 33-1
The last time Kinnaird ran (ever) was 23rd October 2005
The very last time Kinnaird won was on the 2nd of October 2005.
It has not run since.
I believe that Thompson has been promoting Kinnaird to sell his website 090 service for years (I cannot prove it but I’m sure someone can)
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I would ask that you look at Derek Thompson’s website again and ask yourself, how many people look at that yellow flash of impressive winners - the 090 conveniently placed telephone beside the flash - and then look at the wonderful winners in the yellow flash for the month of “October”. 2008?....... AND THEN PHONE!!!!
Answer. Probably tens of thousands. Every single one of them would and so would I had I not checked it out! All potential callers will relate the website claims to the tipsters 090 service for the month of October 2008? false pretences and massive code violation..
Thompson did not lie. He said October and it was October. The only difference is that the October the customer thought he was responding to was 2008, when unknowing to the customer, Thompson’s website “October” relates to 2005.
Thompson’ current website chooses not too tell the name of a horse at its starting price of 33-1. Instead he shows it at 70-1.. Code violation....
Thompson chooses to tell his customer the month of his winners was Octber. It was. OCTOBER 2005!!!!. Misleading.. Trickery-Deception- Dishonest and Indecent.. Massive code violation..
All the information I have given you can be matched with the website copy I that enclose with this letter. Kinnairds result can be proved in archive race results.
And finally sir. Think about the tens of thousands of thousands of people that were tricked by this 090 scam not realising they were the victims of a con. If Thompson is found at fault, will they get their money back? Thompson has made himself a very rich man on the strength of his many trick 090 tippping services
In my opinion sir, I have supplied undisputable evidence of wrong doing by Derek Thompson and would ask that is he to be allowed to continue skinning the vulnerable. Should you require further evidence of his trickery, I will be pleased to oblige, especially to his 090 Racing Post adverts.
Thompson is promoting his 090 service today (23rd Jan 2009) on one single horse that won in October 2005. That sir is one huge massive con. A scam and a fraud. To sell vulnerable people a service based on OCTOBER WINNERS OF 2005 when they think that it must be 2008 cannot be excused anything other that a confidence trick of the highest magnitude.
That of course sir is as I see it. Maybe the authorities will see it different. But for the sake of the poor people who do not realize the reality within……It is not decent. It is not honest and it is not fair..With the very greatest of respect sir I suggest that this 090 website be looked into
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(to be added to the letter.)
Please take another look at the yellow box sir. Thompson claims 65 winners in October. Heaven alone only knows as to which October he is referring. I would ask the regulator why does he not show his customers HIS PROFIT for that month? And why does he not show his winners for November and December? Maybe he has reasons! He may have had 65 winners in Octoner but I can almost guarantee he made a loss to a level stak. The customer is not interested in just getting winners sir. Every customer that phones 090 tipsters expects to make a profit given the information that the tipster presents to them ... 090 tipsters never show their monthly profits. They only choose to show their winners. That sir is not a decent way to trick the caller into phoning the tipster
Posted by "Gerry Atrics" Scam Tipping Blog at 03:05
0 comments:
Me computer went wrong last night...again ... and I could not update me "Sensational" post.... Got a geezer coming round in a minute to sort it proper.... In the meantime here' a juicy story to be getting on with........ THE NAILER???
Its part of a letter that I am sending to ALL authorities..... AND I WANT RESULTS AND ANSWERS
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DEREK THOMPSON’S WEBSITE CODE VIOLATIONS
And finally sir. You will see in the yellow box (Derek Thompson's Website) a horse called Kinnaird shown at 70-1. That price is over twice the starting price of 33-1…. Misleading by deception. Code violation. Starting prices only should be shown.
The 090 advert adjacent to the yellow box of ‘winners only’ suggests that the winners came from that 090 service. I believe they did not. In fact I am almost certain they did not! Misleading by visual suggestion and deception plus code violation.
You will see that Thompson lists a load of flashy prices in the yellow box but fails to indicate the name of any horse, the date or where raced. (except the eye catching 70-1 trick price winner) He throws a load of fancy prices in a box and shows nothing to connect them with any race. All prices are un-provable to the reader. The prices look impressive and tempting and do tempt, but where did they come from? Is the purchaser of his tips not entitled to know at least the name of the related horse? Misleading by omission and misleading visual suggestion.
Until recently The Trinity Mirror Group showed a tag that indicated they proofed Thompson’s selections. The tag has now recently been removed. The removal indicates to the customer that there may be reasons for so doing. If there are reasons, is the customer not entitled to know why TMG stopped proofing?
The Trinity Mirror Group own the Racing Post. I believe Thompson is not charged for his adverts in that paper. They all take a share of the 090 revenue. All three have financially linked interests in the tipsters advert. Hardly independent are they? One might say that they have a rather cosy relationship.
My last complaint is the most serious of all and after reading it sir, I would challenge you to contradict me. It concerns the only horse Thompson mentions on his web-page. Kinnaird 70-1 in the yellow box. If you look in the yellow box you will see it was tipped in October with all the rest of the winners that he boasts. 3 months back. That is a long stretch to promote past winners even by Derek Thompson’s standards. As Kinnaird was the only horse mentioned in the website I decided to check it out to see what it’s SP was.
I checked October 2008……. No Kinnaird
I checked October 2007…….. No Kinnaird
I checked October 2006…….. No Kinnaird
I checked October 2005……...And there it was KINNAIRD 33-1
The last time Kinnaird ran (ever) was 23rd October 2005
The very last time Kinnaird won was on the 2nd of October 2005.
It has not run since.
I believe that Thompson has been promoting Kinnaird to sell his website 090 service for years (I cannot prove it but I’m sure someone can)
.
I would ask that you look at Derek Thompson’s website again and ask yourself, how many people look at that yellow flash of impressive winners - the 090 conveniently placed telephone beside the flash - and then look at the wonderful winners in the yellow flash for the month of “October”. 2008?....... AND THEN PHONE!!!!
Answer. Probably tens of thousands. Every single one of them would and so would I had I not checked it out! All potential callers will relate the website claims to the tipsters 090 service for the month of October 2008? false pretences and massive code violation..
Thompson did not lie. He said October and it was October. The only difference is that the October the customer thought he was responding to was 2008, when unknowing to the customer, Thompson’s website “October” relates to 2005.
Thompson’ current website chooses not too tell the name of a horse at its starting price of 33-1. Instead he shows it at 70-1.. Code violation....
Thompson chooses to tell his customer the month of his winners was Octber. It was. OCTOBER 2005!!!!. Misleading.. Trickery-Deception- Dishonest and Indecent.. Massive code violation..
All the information I have given you can be matched with the website copy I that enclose with this letter. Kinnairds result can be proved in archive race results.
And finally sir. Think about the tens of thousands of thousands of people that were tricked by this 090 scam not realising they were the victims of a con. If Thompson is found at fault, will they get their money back? Thompson has made himself a very rich man on the strength of his many trick 090 tippping services
In my opinion sir, I have supplied undisputable evidence of wrong doing by Derek Thompson and would ask that is he to be allowed to continue skinning the vulnerable. Should you require further evidence of his trickery, I will be pleased to oblige, especially to his 090 Racing Post adverts.
Thompson is promoting his 090 service today (23rd Jan 2009) on one single horse that won in October 2005. That sir is one huge massive con. A scam and a fraud. To sell vulnerable people a service based on OCTOBER WINNERS OF 2005 when they think that it must be 2008 cannot be excused anything other that a confidence trick of the highest magnitude.
That of course sir is as I see it. Maybe the authorities will see it different. But for the sake of the poor people who do not realize the reality within……It is not decent. It is not honest and it is not fair..With the very greatest of respect sir I suggest that this 090 website be looked into
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(to be added to the letter.)
Please take another look at the yellow box sir. Thompson claims 65 winners in October. Heaven alone only knows as to which October he is referring. I would ask the regulator why does he not show his customers HIS PROFIT for that month? And why does he not show his winners for November and December? Maybe he has reasons! He may have had 65 winners in Octoner but I can almost guarantee he made a loss to a level stak. The customer is not interested in just getting winners sir. Every customer that phones 090 tipsters expects to make a profit given the information that the tipster presents to them ... 090 tipsters never show their monthly profits. They only choose to show their winners. That sir is not a decent way to trick the caller into phoning the tipster
Posted by "Gerry Atrics" Scam Tipping Blog at 03:05
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Thompson's scam web (u/d 7th feb )
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GOTCHA THOMPSON!!..GOTCHA
All that you see below the double line is word for word what I wrote in my Blog on the 24th of Jan 2009. exact to the very last full stop! It relates to a horse he THOMPSON gloated about in his website advert that he tipped in 2005!!
It disappeared from his website a day or so after I wrote the letter below!!
WHAT AN EXTRAORDINARY COINCIDENCE!!!!
I WONDER WHY?
My response to this amazing coincidence will be scripted in my archive post "web scam-ad CHANGED!!...WHY!!!" which is sited at the top of the archive list.
GOTCHA THOMPSON....GOTCHA!
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Saturday, 24 January 2009
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Part of a letter that I am sending to ALL authorities.....
AND I WANT RESULTS AND ANSWERS
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DEREK THOMPSON’S WEBSITE CODE VIOLATIONS
And finally sir. You will see in the yellow box (Derek Thompson's Website) a horse called Kinnaird shown at 70-1. That price is over twice the starting price of 33-1…. Misleading by deception. Code violation. Starting prices only should be shown.
The 090 advert adjacent to the yellow box of ‘winners only’ suggests that the winners came from that 090 service. I believe they did not. In fact I am almost certain they did not! Misleading by visual suggestion and deception plus code violation.
You will see that Thompson lists a load of flashy prices in the yellow box but fails to indicate the name of any horse, the date or where raced. (except the eye catching 70-1 trick price winner) He throws a load of fancy prices in a box and shows nothing to connect them with any race. All prices are un-provable to the reader. The prices look impressive and tempting and do tempt, but where did they come from? Is the purchaser of his tips not entitled to know at least the name of the related horse? Misleading by omission and misleading visual suggestion.
Until recently The Trinity Mirror Group showed a tag that indicated they proofed Thompson’s selections. The tag has now recently been removed. The removal indicates to the customer that there may be reasons for so doing. If there are reasons, is the customer not entitled to know why TMG stopped proofing?
The Trinity Mirror Group own the Racing Post. I believe Thompson is not charged for his adverts in that paper. They all take a share of the 090 revenue. All three have financially linked interests in the tipsters advert. Hardly independent are they? One might say that they have a rather cosy relationship.
My last complaint is the most serious of all and after reading it sir, I would challenge you to contradict me. It concerns the only horse Thompson mentions on his web-page. Kinnaird 70-1 in the yellow box. If you look in the yellow box you will see it was tipped in October with all the rest of the winners that he boasts. 3 months back. That is a long stretch to promote past winners even by Derek Thompson’s standards. As Kinnaird was the only horse mentioned in the website I decided to check it out to see what it’s SP was.
I checked October 2008……. No Kinnaird
I checked October 2007…….. No Kinnaird
I checked October 2006…….. No Kinnaird
I checked October 2005……...And there it was KINNAIRD 33-1
The last time Kinnaird ran (ever) was 23rd October 2005
The very last time Kinnaird won was on the 2nd of October 2005.
It has not run since.
I believe that Thompson has been promoting Kinnaird to sell his website 090 service for years (I cannot prove it but I’m sure someone can)
.
I would ask that you look at Derek Thompson’s website again and ask yourself, how many people look at that yellow flash of impressive winners - the 090 conveniently placed telephone beside the flash - and then look at the wonderful winners in the yellow flash for the month of “October”. 2008?....... AND THEN PHONE!!!!
Answer. Probably tens of thousands. Every single one of them would and so would I had I not checked it out! All potential callers will relate the website claims to the tipsters 090 service for the month of October 2008? false pretences and massive code violation..
Thompson did not lie. He said October and it was October. The only difference is that the October the customer thought he was responding to was 2008, when unknowing to the customer, Thompson’s website “October” relates to 2005.
Thompson’ current website chooses not too tell the name of a horse at its starting price of 33-1. Instead he shows it at 70-1.. Code violation....
Thompson chooses to tell his customer the month of his winners was Octber. It was. OCTOBER 2005!!!!. Misleading.. Trickery-Deception- Dishonest and Indecent.. Massive code violation..
All the information I have given you can be matched with the website copy I that enclose with this letter. Kinnairds result can be proved in archive race results.
And finally sir. Think about the tens of thousands of thousands of people that were tricked by this 090 scam not realising they were the victims of a con. If Thompson is found at fault, will they get their money back? Thompson has made himself a very rich man on the strength of his many trick 090 tippping services
In my opinion sir, I have supplied undisputable evidence of wrong doing by Derek Thompson and would ask that is he to be allowed to continue skinning the vulnerable. Should you require further evidence of his trickery, I will be pleased to oblige, especially to his 090 Racing Post adverts.
Thompson is promoting his 090 service today (23rd Jan 2009) on one single horse that won in October 2005. That sir is one huge massive con. A scam and a fraud. To sell vulnerable people a service based on OCTOBER WINNERS OF 2005 when they think that it must be 2008 cannot be excused anything other that a confidence trick of the highest magnitude.
That of course sir is as I see it. Maybe the authorities will see it different. But for the sake of the poor people who do not realize the reality within……It is not decent. It is not honest and it is not fair..With the very greatest of respect sir I suggest that this 090 website be looked into
-------------------------------------------
(to be added to the letter.)
Please take another look at the yellow box sir. Thompson claims 65 winners in October. Heaven alone only knows as to which October he is referring. I would ask the regulator why does he not show his customers HIS PROFIT for that month? And why does he not show his winners for November and December? Maybe he has reasons! He may have had 65 winners in Octoner but I can almost guarantee he made a loss to a level stak. The customer is not interested in just getting winners sir. Every customer that phones 090 tipsters expects to make a profit given the information that the tipster presents to them ... 090 tipsters never show their monthly profits. They only choose to show their winners. That sir is not a decent way to trick the caller into phoning the tipster
Posted by "Gerry Atrics" Scam Tipping Blog at 03:05
0 comments:
GOTCHA THOMPSON!!..GOTCHA
All that you see below the double line is word for word what I wrote in my Blog on the 24th of Jan 2009. exact to the very last full stop! It relates to a horse he THOMPSON gloated about in his website advert that he tipped in 2005!!
It disappeared from his website a day or so after I wrote the letter below!!
WHAT AN EXTRAORDINARY COINCIDENCE!!!!
I WONDER WHY?
My response to this amazing coincidence will be scripted in my archive post "web scam-ad CHANGED!!...WHY!!!" which is sited at the top of the archive list.
GOTCHA THOMPSON....GOTCHA!
=================================================================================
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Saturday, 24 January 2009
.
Part of a letter that I am sending to ALL authorities.....
AND I WANT RESULTS AND ANSWERS
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DEREK THOMPSON’S WEBSITE CODE VIOLATIONS
And finally sir. You will see in the yellow box (Derek Thompson's Website) a horse called Kinnaird shown at 70-1. That price is over twice the starting price of 33-1…. Misleading by deception. Code violation. Starting prices only should be shown.
The 090 advert adjacent to the yellow box of ‘winners only’ suggests that the winners came from that 090 service. I believe they did not. In fact I am almost certain they did not! Misleading by visual suggestion and deception plus code violation.
You will see that Thompson lists a load of flashy prices in the yellow box but fails to indicate the name of any horse, the date or where raced. (except the eye catching 70-1 trick price winner) He throws a load of fancy prices in a box and shows nothing to connect them with any race. All prices are un-provable to the reader. The prices look impressive and tempting and do tempt, but where did they come from? Is the purchaser of his tips not entitled to know at least the name of the related horse? Misleading by omission and misleading visual suggestion.
Until recently The Trinity Mirror Group showed a tag that indicated they proofed Thompson’s selections. The tag has now recently been removed. The removal indicates to the customer that there may be reasons for so doing. If there are reasons, is the customer not entitled to know why TMG stopped proofing?
The Trinity Mirror Group own the Racing Post. I believe Thompson is not charged for his adverts in that paper. They all take a share of the 090 revenue. All three have financially linked interests in the tipsters advert. Hardly independent are they? One might say that they have a rather cosy relationship.
My last complaint is the most serious of all and after reading it sir, I would challenge you to contradict me. It concerns the only horse Thompson mentions on his web-page. Kinnaird 70-1 in the yellow box. If you look in the yellow box you will see it was tipped in October with all the rest of the winners that he boasts. 3 months back. That is a long stretch to promote past winners even by Derek Thompson’s standards. As Kinnaird was the only horse mentioned in the website I decided to check it out to see what it’s SP was.
I checked October 2008……. No Kinnaird
I checked October 2007…….. No Kinnaird
I checked October 2006…….. No Kinnaird
I checked October 2005……...And there it was KINNAIRD 33-1
The last time Kinnaird ran (ever) was 23rd October 2005
The very last time Kinnaird won was on the 2nd of October 2005.
It has not run since.
I believe that Thompson has been promoting Kinnaird to sell his website 090 service for years (I cannot prove it but I’m sure someone can)
.
I would ask that you look at Derek Thompson’s website again and ask yourself, how many people look at that yellow flash of impressive winners - the 090 conveniently placed telephone beside the flash - and then look at the wonderful winners in the yellow flash for the month of “October”. 2008?....... AND THEN PHONE!!!!
Answer. Probably tens of thousands. Every single one of them would and so would I had I not checked it out! All potential callers will relate the website claims to the tipsters 090 service for the month of October 2008? false pretences and massive code violation..
Thompson did not lie. He said October and it was October. The only difference is that the October the customer thought he was responding to was 2008, when unknowing to the customer, Thompson’s website “October” relates to 2005.
Thompson’ current website chooses not too tell the name of a horse at its starting price of 33-1. Instead he shows it at 70-1.. Code violation....
Thompson chooses to tell his customer the month of his winners was Octber. It was. OCTOBER 2005!!!!. Misleading.. Trickery-Deception- Dishonest and Indecent.. Massive code violation..
All the information I have given you can be matched with the website copy I that enclose with this letter. Kinnairds result can be proved in archive race results.
And finally sir. Think about the tens of thousands of thousands of people that were tricked by this 090 scam not realising they were the victims of a con. If Thompson is found at fault, will they get their money back? Thompson has made himself a very rich man on the strength of his many trick 090 tippping services
In my opinion sir, I have supplied undisputable evidence of wrong doing by Derek Thompson and would ask that is he to be allowed to continue skinning the vulnerable. Should you require further evidence of his trickery, I will be pleased to oblige, especially to his 090 Racing Post adverts.
Thompson is promoting his 090 service today (23rd Jan 2009) on one single horse that won in October 2005. That sir is one huge massive con. A scam and a fraud. To sell vulnerable people a service based on OCTOBER WINNERS OF 2005 when they think that it must be 2008 cannot be excused anything other that a confidence trick of the highest magnitude.
That of course sir is as I see it. Maybe the authorities will see it different. But for the sake of the poor people who do not realize the reality within……It is not decent. It is not honest and it is not fair..With the very greatest of respect sir I suggest that this 090 website be looked into
-------------------------------------------
(to be added to the letter.)
Please take another look at the yellow box sir. Thompson claims 65 winners in October. Heaven alone only knows as to which October he is referring. I would ask the regulator why does he not show his customers HIS PROFIT for that month? And why does he not show his winners for November and December? Maybe he has reasons! He may have had 65 winners in Octoner but I can almost guarantee he made a loss to a level stak. The customer is not interested in just getting winners sir. Every customer that phones 090 tipsters expects to make a profit given the information that the tipster presents to them ... 090 tipsters never show their monthly profits. They only choose to show their winners. That sir is not a decent way to trick the caller into phoning the tipster
Posted by "Gerry Atrics" Scam Tipping Blog at 03:05
0 comments:
Wednesday 28 January 2009
WIKIPEDIA help ???
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FACT FACT FACT AND FACT. 100% FACT.
Can any good guy stick the post between the lines in Wikipedia for me. I had a go at it and I might as well have been try chasing moonbeams! I see no reason for rejection as it is statistically correct, non defamatory, none abusive and truthful. I believe that it complies 100% with their guidelines. It only tells the truth as written by that most truthful of newspapers, THE SUNDAY OBSERVER
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The OBSERVER SPORT newspaper. 17 JUN 01
Derek Thompson: 89 tips 72 losers
guardian.co.uk, Sunday 17 June 2001 17.41 BST
Article history
"TOMMO THE TERRIBLE TIPSTER" 89 tips … 72 losers. Observer Sport newspaper called Thompson's tipping line every day for four consecutive weeks. Over the four weeks, Thompson's tips resulted in a loss of £1,846.05, which rose to £1,921.37 with the cost of calls. Fourteen of Thompson's 17 winners were returned at 3-1 or worse and five were odds-on. Thompson's advice to readers is 'Never bet odds-on, it's as simple as that' On 11 May, Thompson plumbed the depths by tipping two 4-6 odds on shots, both of which were beaten. Thompson defended his tipping line by saying 'If people don't like the service, then don't ring' Asked how much he thought callers should have on his tips, he said, 'At the most, a fiver'
Total fact down to the very last penny!........
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WIKIPEDIA ANYBODY???? ....... I'd do it meself but I'm as thick as two short planks on gizmo stuff. But I'm good at poachin' the odd salmon or two and nickin' a few bob with me 3 card monte!!! Aint I Norfy??? ho ho ho!
FACT FACT FACT AND FACT. 100% FACT.
Can any good guy stick the post between the lines in Wikipedia for me. I had a go at it and I might as well have been try chasing moonbeams! I see no reason for rejection as it is statistically correct, non defamatory, none abusive and truthful. I believe that it complies 100% with their guidelines. It only tells the truth as written by that most truthful of newspapers, THE SUNDAY OBSERVER
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The OBSERVER SPORT newspaper. 17 JUN 01
Derek Thompson: 89 tips 72 losers
guardian.co.uk, Sunday 17 June 2001 17.41 BST
Article history
"TOMMO THE TERRIBLE TIPSTER" 89 tips … 72 losers. Observer Sport newspaper called Thompson's tipping line every day for four consecutive weeks. Over the four weeks, Thompson's tips resulted in a loss of £1,846.05, which rose to £1,921.37 with the cost of calls. Fourteen of Thompson's 17 winners were returned at 3-1 or worse and five were odds-on. Thompson's advice to readers is 'Never bet odds-on, it's as simple as that' On 11 May, Thompson plumbed the depths by tipping two 4-6 odds on shots, both of which were beaten. Thompson defended his tipping line by saying 'If people don't like the service, then don't ring' Asked how much he thought callers should have on his tips, he said, 'At the most, a fiver'
Total fact down to the very last penny!........
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WIKIPEDIA ANYBODY???? ....... I'd do it meself but I'm as thick as two short planks on gizmo stuff. But I'm good at poachin' the odd salmon or two and nickin' a few bob with me 3 card monte!!! Aint I Norfy??? ho ho ho!
Betfair must be blind! (ud 29)
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BETFAIR STICK THEIR HEAD IN THE SAND!!!!
BETFAIR SAY:-......."As far as I am aware it is only your opinion (Birkdale) that such guidelines have been breached and as such could be considered disparaging to his business"
Where the hell have you been for the past 5 years ALEX GRAYNOR? The Betfair forums scream out with forumites "OPINIONS" week after week about the continuous code violations of Derek Thompson ..... AND YOU KNOW IT!!!!!!.....Try reading your own threads sometime Betfair. After you remove the blindfold mask of Tommo protection. The same self protective mask as used by the Racing Post, the Trinity Mirror Group, Talk Sport, Channel 4, Elite Racing and ATR. Think about it! ....Stuff the nail - protect the hammer!
DO YOU NEVER READ YOUR FORUM THREADS? Your shredding machine works overtime on protecting Thompson's code violations. AND YOU KNOW IT!!!
You choose to protect Thompson's notorious "disparaging business" rather than let the fact be known. The fact is, all forumites know about it EXCEPT YOU!!!! Thompson's disparaging business" is to mislead and trick people. He peddles scam and fraud. He tricks misleads and deceives people. Check the stuff in your shredder from end to end and tell me I am wrong Alex.
You say..."As far as I am aware it is only your opinion (Birkdale) that such guidelines have been breached and as such could be considered disparaging to his business" (Thompson's)
You must be bloody blind Betfair when you say that it was "Only Birkdales Opinion" Could it be that your own self interests reflect such a naive observation.
It would now appear that Betfair have joined those that wish to protect Thompson's "disparaging business" That of fraud, and trickery. Shame on you Betfair!! Shame on you!
Did you know Betfair that:-
Thompson's adverts mislead by deception? Winners only
His web advert still shows winners from October?
Do you realise that Oct is 3 months past its sell by date?
Did you know that since Oct he has made astronomical losses?
Update 29 jan
By the way, the OCTOBER he mentions in his website is 2005!
His winner Kinnaird in his website boast relates to Oct 2005!
I believe that con has been running for years
His boasts about winners from 3 years ago may not last long!!!
Did you know he no longer shows proofing to the Mirror Group?
Did you know he ALWAYS makes astronomical losses?
Did you know the RP showed he lost over £11,000 (£100 stk)?
Did you know that huge loss was over just a 10 month period?
Did you know that all the 10 months were losing months?
Did you know Cannyman and myself logged his tips for 3 mnths?
Did you know he lost £6000 to a £50 stake in those 3 months?
Did you know that he sells his tips to people that do not know?
Do you think, if clients knew of his huge losses, they'd phone?
Did you not know that Thompson violates code guideline's?
Did you know his huge consistent losses are indeed code violation?
Did you know he charges vulnerable people for his worthless tips?
Denial of consistant tipping failure year after year IS Immoral.
Did you know the code requires the tipster to be a moral person.
Did you know the code of conduct requires decency and honesty
If tips are sold when proof shows they are worthless, that is immoral
Did you know that he's on record as saying "never back odds on"
Did you know that most of his selections are odds on.
Did you know he chooses to call his odds on selections "etc etc"
Did you know that he does so with reason
Did you know the reason is to conceal the fact they are 'odds on'
AS TO DEREK THOMPSON'S "DISPARAGING BUSINESS"
Try putting it another way....How about:-
DISPARAGING SCAM BUSINESS
And you say, in your opinion it was only Birkdale that knew about it.
And finally, Now that I have enlightened you as to the dubious morals of Derek Thompson, is it now "your opinion that such guidelines have been breached (by Thompson) and as such could be considered disparaging to his"....... (clients)?
Shame on you Betfair. Shame on you!
And in the meantime The Titanic sinks and Thompson continue to row the boat!
BETFAIR STICK THEIR HEAD IN THE SAND!!!!
BETFAIR SAY:-......."As far as I am aware it is only your opinion (Birkdale) that such guidelines have been breached and as such could be considered disparaging to his business"
Where the hell have you been for the past 5 years ALEX GRAYNOR? The Betfair forums scream out with forumites "OPINIONS" week after week about the continuous code violations of Derek Thompson ..... AND YOU KNOW IT!!!!!!.....Try reading your own threads sometime Betfair. After you remove the blindfold mask of Tommo protection. The same self protective mask as used by the Racing Post, the Trinity Mirror Group, Talk Sport, Channel 4, Elite Racing and ATR. Think about it! ....Stuff the nail - protect the hammer!
DO YOU NEVER READ YOUR FORUM THREADS? Your shredding machine works overtime on protecting Thompson's code violations. AND YOU KNOW IT!!!
You choose to protect Thompson's notorious "disparaging business" rather than let the fact be known. The fact is, all forumites know about it EXCEPT YOU!!!! Thompson's disparaging business" is to mislead and trick people. He peddles scam and fraud. He tricks misleads and deceives people. Check the stuff in your shredder from end to end and tell me I am wrong Alex.
You say..."As far as I am aware it is only your opinion (Birkdale) that such guidelines have been breached and as such could be considered disparaging to his business" (Thompson's)
You must be bloody blind Betfair when you say that it was "Only Birkdales Opinion" Could it be that your own self interests reflect such a naive observation.
It would now appear that Betfair have joined those that wish to protect Thompson's "disparaging business" That of fraud, and trickery. Shame on you Betfair!! Shame on you!
Did you know Betfair that:-
Thompson's adverts mislead by deception? Winners only
His web advert still shows winners from October?
Do you realise that Oct is 3 months past its sell by date?
Did you know that since Oct he has made astronomical losses?
Update 29 jan
By the way, the OCTOBER he mentions in his website is 2005!
His winner Kinnaird in his website boast relates to Oct 2005!
I believe that con has been running for years
His boasts about winners from 3 years ago may not last long!!!
Did you know he no longer shows proofing to the Mirror Group?
Did you know he ALWAYS makes astronomical losses?
Did you know the RP showed he lost over £11,000 (£100 stk)?
Did you know that huge loss was over just a 10 month period?
Did you know that all the 10 months were losing months?
Did you know Cannyman and myself logged his tips for 3 mnths?
Did you know he lost £6000 to a £50 stake in those 3 months?
Did you know that he sells his tips to people that do not know?
Do you think, if clients knew of his huge losses, they'd phone?
Did you not know that Thompson violates code guideline's?
Did you know his huge consistent losses are indeed code violation?
Did you know he charges vulnerable people for his worthless tips?
Denial of consistant tipping failure year after year IS Immoral.
Did you know the code requires the tipster to be a moral person.
Did you know the code of conduct requires decency and honesty
If tips are sold when proof shows they are worthless, that is immoral
Did you know that he's on record as saying "never back odds on"
Did you know that most of his selections are odds on.
Did you know he chooses to call his odds on selections "etc etc"
Did you know that he does so with reason
Did you know the reason is to conceal the fact they are 'odds on'
AS TO DEREK THOMPSON'S "DISPARAGING BUSINESS"
Try putting it another way....How about:-
DISPARAGING SCAM BUSINESS
And you say, in your opinion it was only Birkdale that knew about it.
And finally, Now that I have enlightened you as to the dubious morals of Derek Thompson, is it now "your opinion that such guidelines have been breached (by Thompson) and as such could be considered disparaging to his"....... (clients)?
Shame on you Betfair. Shame on you!
And in the meantime The Titanic sinks and Thompson continue to row the boat!
Tuesday 27 January 2009
Betfair letter to Birkdale. Banned
JOIN THE CLUB BIRKDALE
It seems that the only people who do not know Derek Thompson is a fraud and a con-man is:- CHANNEL 4, TALK SPORT, ATR, THE RACING POST, THE ELITE RACING CLUB, THE TRINITY MIRROR GROUP AND NOW BETFAIR.
THEY HAVE ALL GOT THEIR HEADS STUCK IN THE SAND!!! I WONDER WHY?.....THINK ABOUT IT!
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Dear Sir
Thank you for your e-mail.
The Betfair forum is run at our discretion and if we feel (rightly or wrongly) that someone has overstepped the mark then we can remove access to it as we see fit.
The vast majority of your postings concern a single named individual. It is not acceptable to use our forum as a vehicle to mount such a campaign.
On the 24th of January at 21.56 you wrote "Tommo has breached the advertising guidelines again" As far as I am aware it is only your opinion that such guidelines have been breached and as such could be considered disparaging to his business.
You also reprinted the following defamatory statement "An entry concerning Derek Thompson, the racing tipster, was made in Wikipedia. It lasted about 2 days... IT WAS THEN WITHDRAWN. As is the usual practice when any negative voice is made concerning the scam-ad man by the people that know of his scams. "
A statement may be considered to be defamatory if it tends to do any one of the following:
lower the claimant in the estimation of right-thinking members of society generally;
disparage a claimant in his business, trade, office or profession;
expose the claimant to hatred, ridicule or contempt; or
cause the claimant to be shunned or avoided
Clearly referring to a named individual as carrying out 'Scams' could be considered defamatory.
You have received several warnings regarding posting such information in the past and have chosen to disregard these warnings. As such we have had no option but to suspend your access to the forum and unfortunately are unable to enter into further lengthy debate regarding your access to the forum.
Kind regards
Alex Graynor.
I shall be passing comment tomorrow about it's content.
I'm gone
It seems that the only people who do not know Derek Thompson is a fraud and a con-man is:- CHANNEL 4, TALK SPORT, ATR, THE RACING POST, THE ELITE RACING CLUB, THE TRINITY MIRROR GROUP AND NOW BETFAIR.
THEY HAVE ALL GOT THEIR HEADS STUCK IN THE SAND!!! I WONDER WHY?.....THINK ABOUT IT!
-------------------------------------------------
Dear Sir
Thank you for your e-mail.
The Betfair forum is run at our discretion and if we feel (rightly or wrongly) that someone has overstepped the mark then we can remove access to it as we see fit.
The vast majority of your postings concern a single named individual. It is not acceptable to use our forum as a vehicle to mount such a campaign.
On the 24th of January at 21.56 you wrote "Tommo has breached the advertising guidelines again" As far as I am aware it is only your opinion that such guidelines have been breached and as such could be considered disparaging to his business.
You also reprinted the following defamatory statement "An entry concerning Derek Thompson, the racing tipster, was made in Wikipedia. It lasted about 2 days... IT WAS THEN WITHDRAWN. As is the usual practice when any negative voice is made concerning the scam-ad man by the people that know of his scams. "
A statement may be considered to be defamatory if it tends to do any one of the following:
lower the claimant in the estimation of right-thinking members of society generally;
disparage a claimant in his business, trade, office or profession;
expose the claimant to hatred, ridicule or contempt; or
cause the claimant to be shunned or avoided
Clearly referring to a named individual as carrying out 'Scams' could be considered defamatory.
You have received several warnings regarding posting such information in the past and have chosen to disregard these warnings. As such we have had no option but to suspend your access to the forum and unfortunately are unable to enter into further lengthy debate regarding your access to the forum.
Kind regards
Alex Graynor.
I shall be passing comment tomorrow about it's content.
I'm gone
'Scotsman on Sunday'. re 090
AN ARTICLE BY THE 'SCOTSMAN ON SUNDAY'
AN EXCELLENT READ THAT SEZ IT ALL
BY TOM ENGLISH 16th March 2008
Note the amount of selections by Nevison!
...................................................
"Tom English: Here's a tip - hang up on the premium lines"
IT'S been many years since I first encountered a man called V.Wright with an address at Wyvern Cottage, Newmarket, Suffolk in Flann O'Brien's masterpiece At Swim-Two-Birds.
V.Wright was the turf accountant of the novel's hero, Stephen Dedalus, a layabout student whose life centred around smoking, dreaming and getting horseracing tips through the post from the "Backer's Friend" in Newmarket.
"Sensational news" was alADVERTISEMENTways reaching V.Wright's ear. "Information from the RIGHT QUARTER" was always shared with those willing to send him a bob in the mail. "Leaving me now because of bad luck would indeed be a 'puzzler'," he writes after his latest "GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY" comes in last. "It is very comforting to know that I have clients who are sportsmen who do not lose heart when the luck is 'the wrong way'." To get back in winning form he tells his customers to "GO IN FOR THE WIN OF YOUR LIFE" with his "treble nap CAST-IRON PLUNGER... Old friends will know that I do not send 'guessworks' but only STRICTLY OCCASIONAL advices over animals already as good as past the post... P.S. The above will be the business. Yours, Verney.'"
Good ol' Verney. I thought of him last week as the Cheltenham Festival unfolded. The real-life, modern-day equivalent of Verney are those characters who advertise their premium-rate telephone tipping lines in the Racing Post every day. It is extraordinary how similar they are to Verney. Almost 70 years after At Swim-Two-Birds was published, they use a lot of the same kind of language and display the same sense of certainty about their "good things" as he did. But are their tips any better? That's what I wanted to discover. Are they any more liable to make a profit or are they as much in the dark as the rest of us?
Where better to find out than at this year's Festival, the biggest week of gambling in the history of British sport?
I selected three Verneys on Thursday morning; Derek "Tommo" Thompson of C4 Racing who also operates Tommo's Tips (£1 per minute), Karl "The Colossus" Hedley (£1.50 per minute) and Dave "the man with an eye for the winners" Nevison (also £1.50 per minute). There were 19 races at the Festival to pick from across Thursday and Friday. I rang their phone lines and noted their information, having an imaginary £10 stake on each one.
Tommo is the smoothest of the three. That'll be his television experience, you see. He's not lacking in self-esteem is Tommo. "I had dinner with Jessica Harrington in Dublin a week last Monday," he mentioned in his Friday recording. "She said, 'Tommo, my horse Personal Column will win the Triumph Hurdle'. 'But, Jessie,' I said, 'that horse is 20-1!' 'It can't be, Tommo?' she gasped. 'It is,' I said. Remember folks, you heard it here first. Personal Column."
Needless to say, Personal Column didn't win the Triumph Hurdle (it was seventh) but Tommo had a very decent day on Thursday. He had three winners – well, two if you don't count Inglis Drever which a blind man could see was going to win the World Hurdle – and returned a profit of £41. Tommo couldn't be considered a Verney on that form. No chance. How about Dave Nevison? He also had three winners (including Inglis Drever), but gave us nine losers. Counting the price of the call, Dave made us a profit of £2.50. Still, no Verney there either.
The Colossus next. Could he beat three winners? Er, no. Two, then? Nope. Hmm, one? Wrong again. Eight tips, eight losers. On top of the price of the call (£7.50), he'd cost us £87.50. Definite Verney potential here.
Ten races down and nine to go on Friday. Plenty of time for cast-iron plungers and golden opportunities. Karl fancies Theatre Girl in the first race. "She'll relish the conditions." Theatre Girl is fifth. He likes Aigle D'Or in the second race. "Very smart sort, highly thought of." Aigle D'Or finishes last. The Colossus tips five losers (and no winners) to go with the eight that sank on Thursday. Had we gone with his advice we'd have finished the two-day marathon in a hole to the tune of £145. Verney lives!
What about Dave? He has a 7-1 winner to put himself in good shape but then tips a stream of losers, two and three in the same race on occasion. Nine in a row go south and Dave turns his profit from Thursday into a £60 deficit for the two days. The return of Vern!
Come on Tommo, you're the last hope. His seven-minute phone message on Friday morning brings fascinating information. He goes for a surprise in the opening race. "I like Silver Charmer here at a big price, 50-1. She's been laid out for this race." Silver Charmer runs well but ends up sixth. Tommo has a bit of each-way success in the second race to get himself back in gear but then, disastrously, he catches the losing bug. "What A Friend is owned by Sir Alex Ferguson and I can tell you now there's a very strong word coming out of Manchester United for this one." What A Friend runs like a dog and gives up before the finish.
Don't fail us now, Tommo.
"The Gold Cup next," he announces. "In the last 24 hours I've spoken with Sam Thomas, rider of Denman, and Ruby Walsh, rider of Kauto Star, and I have to say, Sam is very, very confident about Denman's chances. He thinks he'll win. I don't."
Tommo!
Two more losers follow (one of them finishes last) and we arrive at the County Hurdle, a charge of the light brigade that brings the curtain down on the Festival for another year. Tommo needs a winner to avoid Verney status. Mercifully, he has kept in reserve what he calls his "bet of the day", the 2008 equivalent of the CAST-IRON PLUNGER. "You don't want to miss out on this," he says. "He's trained by Red Rum's old jockey and ridden by the great Tony McCoy, it's No.9, Wanango."
Wanango staggers home in 11th place, dead to the world for all that money riding on its back. Tommo has managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, ending £31 down for the two days, including the cost of the privileged information he let us in on. The third coming of Verney.
Maybe it's harsh on the three boys to judge their expertise on just two days in the racing calendar but perhaps not as harsh as charging through the nose for advice that ends up costing us money. Nothing much has changed since Wyvern Cottage was a magnet for all aspiring fortune-seekers, it seems. There will be those who'll tune in again for more next week and the week after and the week after that. On Friday, Tommo concluded his message with a taster of what was to come. "If you think this is good, wait until you hear what I've got for Saturday. Tune in tomorrow..."
Or as Verney put it: "You had the losers, why not 'row in' and make a packet over the winners that are now our due. SENSATIONAL NEWS has reached me that certain interests have planned a gigantic coup involving a certain animal..."
AN EXCELLENT READ THAT SEZ IT ALL
BY TOM ENGLISH 16th March 2008
Note the amount of selections by Nevison!
...................................................
"Tom English: Here's a tip - hang up on the premium lines"
IT'S been many years since I first encountered a man called V.Wright with an address at Wyvern Cottage, Newmarket, Suffolk in Flann O'Brien's masterpiece At Swim-Two-Birds.
V.Wright was the turf accountant of the novel's hero, Stephen Dedalus, a layabout student whose life centred around smoking, dreaming and getting horseracing tips through the post from the "Backer's Friend" in Newmarket.
"Sensational news" was alADVERTISEMENTways reaching V.Wright's ear. "Information from the RIGHT QUARTER" was always shared with those willing to send him a bob in the mail. "Leaving me now because of bad luck would indeed be a 'puzzler'," he writes after his latest "GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY" comes in last. "It is very comforting to know that I have clients who are sportsmen who do not lose heart when the luck is 'the wrong way'." To get back in winning form he tells his customers to "GO IN FOR THE WIN OF YOUR LIFE" with his "treble nap CAST-IRON PLUNGER... Old friends will know that I do not send 'guessworks' but only STRICTLY OCCASIONAL advices over animals already as good as past the post... P.S. The above will be the business. Yours, Verney.'"
Good ol' Verney. I thought of him last week as the Cheltenham Festival unfolded. The real-life, modern-day equivalent of Verney are those characters who advertise their premium-rate telephone tipping lines in the Racing Post every day. It is extraordinary how similar they are to Verney. Almost 70 years after At Swim-Two-Birds was published, they use a lot of the same kind of language and display the same sense of certainty about their "good things" as he did. But are their tips any better? That's what I wanted to discover. Are they any more liable to make a profit or are they as much in the dark as the rest of us?
Where better to find out than at this year's Festival, the biggest week of gambling in the history of British sport?
I selected three Verneys on Thursday morning; Derek "Tommo" Thompson of C4 Racing who also operates Tommo's Tips (£1 per minute), Karl "The Colossus" Hedley (£1.50 per minute) and Dave "the man with an eye for the winners" Nevison (also £1.50 per minute). There were 19 races at the Festival to pick from across Thursday and Friday. I rang their phone lines and noted their information, having an imaginary £10 stake on each one.
Tommo is the smoothest of the three. That'll be his television experience, you see. He's not lacking in self-esteem is Tommo. "I had dinner with Jessica Harrington in Dublin a week last Monday," he mentioned in his Friday recording. "She said, 'Tommo, my horse Personal Column will win the Triumph Hurdle'. 'But, Jessie,' I said, 'that horse is 20-1!' 'It can't be, Tommo?' she gasped. 'It is,' I said. Remember folks, you heard it here first. Personal Column."
Needless to say, Personal Column didn't win the Triumph Hurdle (it was seventh) but Tommo had a very decent day on Thursday. He had three winners – well, two if you don't count Inglis Drever which a blind man could see was going to win the World Hurdle – and returned a profit of £41. Tommo couldn't be considered a Verney on that form. No chance. How about Dave Nevison? He also had three winners (including Inglis Drever), but gave us nine losers. Counting the price of the call, Dave made us a profit of £2.50. Still, no Verney there either.
The Colossus next. Could he beat three winners? Er, no. Two, then? Nope. Hmm, one? Wrong again. Eight tips, eight losers. On top of the price of the call (£7.50), he'd cost us £87.50. Definite Verney potential here.
Ten races down and nine to go on Friday. Plenty of time for cast-iron plungers and golden opportunities. Karl fancies Theatre Girl in the first race. "She'll relish the conditions." Theatre Girl is fifth. He likes Aigle D'Or in the second race. "Very smart sort, highly thought of." Aigle D'Or finishes last. The Colossus tips five losers (and no winners) to go with the eight that sank on Thursday. Had we gone with his advice we'd have finished the two-day marathon in a hole to the tune of £145. Verney lives!
What about Dave? He has a 7-1 winner to put himself in good shape but then tips a stream of losers, two and three in the same race on occasion. Nine in a row go south and Dave turns his profit from Thursday into a £60 deficit for the two days. The return of Vern!
Come on Tommo, you're the last hope. His seven-minute phone message on Friday morning brings fascinating information. He goes for a surprise in the opening race. "I like Silver Charmer here at a big price, 50-1. She's been laid out for this race." Silver Charmer runs well but ends up sixth. Tommo has a bit of each-way success in the second race to get himself back in gear but then, disastrously, he catches the losing bug. "What A Friend is owned by Sir Alex Ferguson and I can tell you now there's a very strong word coming out of Manchester United for this one." What A Friend runs like a dog and gives up before the finish.
Don't fail us now, Tommo.
"The Gold Cup next," he announces. "In the last 24 hours I've spoken with Sam Thomas, rider of Denman, and Ruby Walsh, rider of Kauto Star, and I have to say, Sam is very, very confident about Denman's chances. He thinks he'll win. I don't."
Tommo!
Two more losers follow (one of them finishes last) and we arrive at the County Hurdle, a charge of the light brigade that brings the curtain down on the Festival for another year. Tommo needs a winner to avoid Verney status. Mercifully, he has kept in reserve what he calls his "bet of the day", the 2008 equivalent of the CAST-IRON PLUNGER. "You don't want to miss out on this," he says. "He's trained by Red Rum's old jockey and ridden by the great Tony McCoy, it's No.9, Wanango."
Wanango staggers home in 11th place, dead to the world for all that money riding on its back. Tommo has managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, ending £31 down for the two days, including the cost of the privileged information he let us in on. The third coming of Verney.
Maybe it's harsh on the three boys to judge their expertise on just two days in the racing calendar but perhaps not as harsh as charging through the nose for advice that ends up costing us money. Nothing much has changed since Wyvern Cottage was a magnet for all aspiring fortune-seekers, it seems. There will be those who'll tune in again for more next week and the week after and the week after that. On Friday, Tommo concluded his message with a taster of what was to come. "If you think this is good, wait until you hear what I've got for Saturday. Tune in tomorrow..."
Or as Verney put it: "You had the losers, why not 'row in' and make a packet over the winners that are now our due. SENSATIONAL NEWS has reached me that certain interests have planned a gigantic coup involving a certain animal..."
YOU MUST READ THIS u/d 2pm
.
WELL I NEVER WOULD HAVE BELIEVED IT!!!
Wanna SEE, HEAR and READ a funny story? Sit back and enjoy. But make sure the sick bucket is handy.
I'm a big time old man and me and me old pal Newby was thinking of having our last fling holiday, A good friend of mine (I have made many friends since starting my crusade against scam 090 tipping services) sent me this website address. I wondered what it could possibly be. So I carefully tapped it in
http://www.seasonsholidays.com/derekthompson.html
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!.....Aaaaaaagh!! I screamed. Quick quick Newby gimme the sick bucket....quick!!!......Aaaaaaaaagh Aaaaaaaaah
Bueueuuurrrrr!! Beeuuuuuuerrrr!!! (that's me being sick!)
"What's the matter Gerry" said Newby.....You were OK before you logged into that website. What went wrong? You look as though you've seen a ghost. Let's have a look at the site Gerry"
NO!!!...NO!!! Don't touch it?
"Why's that Gerry?"
It's what they call a computer virus Newby and if you mess about with it you WILL GET INTO ALL SORTS OF TROUBLE. A virus is a not nice thing that spreads not nice stuff all over the place. People don't know they are infected until it is to late!!!
"Corr! Thanks for warning me Gerry.....It's good that geezers like you know all about nasty viruses and stuff"
"Hey Gerry!"
Wot?
"One of your computer friends has left you another email address about holidays. Could be interesting! Aren't you going to have a look at it?"
Later Newby when I feel a bit better. Later!
Hey Newby!
"Wot?"
Pass me the sick bucket coz I'm gonna be sick again!!!!!
Bueueuuurrrrr!! Beeuuuuuuerrrr!!! (that's me being sick!)
................. -------------- ...................
(A FEW HOURS LATER)
"Hey Gerry!!"
Wot!
"Come on!!! Have a shufty at the next email"
No!
"Why not?"
I might see that virus I was tellin' you about and make meself ill again. And I can't get no more sick in the sick bucket!!
"Oh come on Gerry!! Have a poke!!"
Stop bein' rude Newby
"Sorry Gerry I meant poke the web and see what yer friend sez"
Oh OK Newby but I will need your support on this one. You must look at it with me just in case that virus that I was tellin' you about is still on there!! Go get a couple of buckets Newby....Just in case!
"Thanks a lot Gerry, can;t wait!"
Ok Newby! Are you ready for this. Wot you are about to see could blow yer hat off.
"I'm ready Gerry"
OK hear goes!
http://www.bitterwallet.com/a-timeshare-scam-in-2008-will-we-ever-learn/367
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!..... Aaaaaaagh!! ....... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!..... Aaaaaaagh!!........ Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!! ..... Aaaaaaagh!! ....... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!..... Aaaaaaagh!!
ITS ANOTHER BLOODY VIRUS!!!! ..... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!..... Aaaaaaagh!!
Bueueuuurrrrr!! Beeuuuuuuerrrr!!! Bueueuuurrrrr!! Beeuuuuuuerrrr!!! Bueueuuurrrrr!! Beeuuuuuuerrrr!!! .......Bueueuuurrrrr!! Beeuuuuuuerrrr!!!
"GERRY!!!!GERRY!!!!GERRY!!!GERRY"
"Excuse me mate. Could you give me mate a hand please?
Wot's wrong with him?
I think he's caught a virus!!!!!!
................. ------------- ..................
(A COUPLE OF DAYS LATER)
"Hi Gerry! I've brought you some grapes"
Wot for
"Well when you visit people in hospital you take them things like flowers and stuff!"
Thanks for that Newby.
"No probs Gerry. No probs. Here Gerry?"
Wot?
"A geezer mate of mine give me another a email address to check out. After wot happened to you after tellin' me about virus's and stuff, I thought you might like to do it for me"
But Newby!!!! The virus made me seriously ill when I saw it. Why do you think I'm layin' in this bed in this hospital and in this mental health ward for krist sake?!! Come on Newby!!! Be fair!!! The virus is infecting me big time Newby!!!
"Well gerry, the guy that sent this email said it might make you rich"
How?
"By punting on races in tin cans"
Sounds interesting. Gimme me computer! Now gimme the address?
http://www.manhattencasinos.co.uk/FilmedHorseRacing.htm
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!..... Aaaaaaagh!! ....... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!..... Aaaaaaagh!!........ Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!! ..... Aaaaaaagh!! ....... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!..... Aaaaaaagh!!
ITS ANOTHER BLOODY VIRUS!!!! ..... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!..... Aaaaaaagh!!
Bueueuuurrrrr!! Beeuuuuuuerrrr!!! Bueueuuurrrrr!! Beeuuuuuuerrrr!!! Bueueuuurrrrr!! Beeuuuuuuerrrr!!! .......Bueueuuurrrrr!! Beeuuuuuuerrrr!!!
"GERRY!!!!GERRY!!!!GERRY!!!GERRY"
"NURSE NURSE NURSE!!!!!"
"Please help my friend Gerry!!!!!!! This wretched virus has got to Gerry again!!!! Where do you keep the buckets please!"
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh Ha Ha Haaaaaaaaaaagh!!!
The spread of the virus seems unstopable!
Think about it!
WELL I NEVER WOULD HAVE BELIEVED IT!!!
Wanna SEE, HEAR and READ a funny story? Sit back and enjoy. But make sure the sick bucket is handy.
I'm a big time old man and me and me old pal Newby was thinking of having our last fling holiday, A good friend of mine (I have made many friends since starting my crusade against scam 090 tipping services) sent me this website address. I wondered what it could possibly be. So I carefully tapped it in
http://www.seasonsholidays.com/derekthompson.html
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!.....Aaaaaaagh!! I screamed. Quick quick Newby gimme the sick bucket....quick!!!......Aaaaaaaaagh Aaaaaaaaah
Bueueuuurrrrr!! Beeuuuuuuerrrr!!! (that's me being sick!)
"What's the matter Gerry" said Newby.....You were OK before you logged into that website. What went wrong? You look as though you've seen a ghost. Let's have a look at the site Gerry"
NO!!!...NO!!! Don't touch it?
"Why's that Gerry?"
It's what they call a computer virus Newby and if you mess about with it you WILL GET INTO ALL SORTS OF TROUBLE. A virus is a not nice thing that spreads not nice stuff all over the place. People don't know they are infected until it is to late!!!
"Corr! Thanks for warning me Gerry.....It's good that geezers like you know all about nasty viruses and stuff"
"Hey Gerry!"
Wot?
"One of your computer friends has left you another email address about holidays. Could be interesting! Aren't you going to have a look at it?"
Later Newby when I feel a bit better. Later!
Hey Newby!
"Wot?"
Pass me the sick bucket coz I'm gonna be sick again!!!!!
Bueueuuurrrrr!! Beeuuuuuuerrrr!!! (that's me being sick!)
................. -------------- ...................
(A FEW HOURS LATER)
"Hey Gerry!!"
Wot!
"Come on!!! Have a shufty at the next email"
No!
"Why not?"
I might see that virus I was tellin' you about and make meself ill again. And I can't get no more sick in the sick bucket!!
"Oh come on Gerry!! Have a poke!!"
Stop bein' rude Newby
"Sorry Gerry I meant poke the web and see what yer friend sez"
Oh OK Newby but I will need your support on this one. You must look at it with me just in case that virus that I was tellin' you about is still on there!! Go get a couple of buckets Newby....Just in case!
"Thanks a lot Gerry, can;t wait!"
Ok Newby! Are you ready for this. Wot you are about to see could blow yer hat off.
"I'm ready Gerry"
OK hear goes!
http://www.bitterwallet.com/a-timeshare-scam-in-2008-will-we-ever-learn/367
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!..... Aaaaaaagh!! ....... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!..... Aaaaaaagh!!........ Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!! ..... Aaaaaaagh!! ....... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!..... Aaaaaaagh!!
ITS ANOTHER BLOODY VIRUS!!!! ..... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!..... Aaaaaaagh!!
Bueueuuurrrrr!! Beeuuuuuuerrrr!!! Bueueuuurrrrr!! Beeuuuuuuerrrr!!! Bueueuuurrrrr!! Beeuuuuuuerrrr!!! .......Bueueuuurrrrr!! Beeuuuuuuerrrr!!!
"GERRY!!!!GERRY!!!!GERRY!!!GERRY"
"Excuse me mate. Could you give me mate a hand please?
Wot's wrong with him?
I think he's caught a virus!!!!!!
................. ------------- ..................
(A COUPLE OF DAYS LATER)
"Hi Gerry! I've brought you some grapes"
Wot for
"Well when you visit people in hospital you take them things like flowers and stuff!"
Thanks for that Newby.
"No probs Gerry. No probs. Here Gerry?"
Wot?
"A geezer mate of mine give me another a email address to check out. After wot happened to you after tellin' me about virus's and stuff, I thought you might like to do it for me"
But Newby!!!! The virus made me seriously ill when I saw it. Why do you think I'm layin' in this bed in this hospital and in this mental health ward for krist sake?!! Come on Newby!!! Be fair!!! The virus is infecting me big time Newby!!!
"Well gerry, the guy that sent this email said it might make you rich"
How?
"By punting on races in tin cans"
Sounds interesting. Gimme me computer! Now gimme the address?
http://www.manhattencasinos.co.uk/FilmedHorseRacing.htm
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!..... Aaaaaaagh!! ....... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!..... Aaaaaaagh!!........ Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!! ..... Aaaaaaagh!! ....... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!..... Aaaaaaagh!!
ITS ANOTHER BLOODY VIRUS!!!! ..... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!..... Aaaaaaagh!!
Bueueuuurrrrr!! Beeuuuuuuerrrr!!! Bueueuuurrrrr!! Beeuuuuuuerrrr!!! Bueueuuurrrrr!! Beeuuuuuuerrrr!!! .......Bueueuuurrrrr!! Beeuuuuuuerrrr!!!
"GERRY!!!!GERRY!!!!GERRY!!!GERRY"
"NURSE NURSE NURSE!!!!!"
"Please help my friend Gerry!!!!!!! This wretched virus has got to Gerry again!!!! Where do you keep the buckets please!"
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh Ha Ha Haaaaaaaaaaagh!!!
The spread of the virus seems unstopable!
Think about it!
Monday 26 January 2009
Thompson's stretching scams
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TOMMO RACING POST AD STRETCHES WINNERS FOR 4 WKS.
TOMMO'S WEB AD STRETCHES WINNERS FROM 3 YRS AGO!
I say that is misleading information.
I say that is deceiving information.
I say that is trick advertising.
I say that is fraudulent advertising.
I SAY DEREK THOMSON'S ADVERTS ARE EXTREMELY MISLEADING!
The Racing Post are on record as saying
“All information carried within the adverts conform with all Advertising Standards guidelines for sports tipster service, as is with all tipster ads carried in the Racing Post.” ......
I say. Do they really?... What? Boasting about winners 4 weeks past their sell by date? And the RP say this conforms with the ASA guidelines? I'll have to have a word with the ASA about that one!
Perhaps The Racing would like to know that their advertiser Derek Thompson is currently advertising a horse on his website that won in OCTOBER!!! And perhaps they would also like to know that the horse Derek Thomson is boasting as a winner in OCTOBER relates to a winner from over 3 OVER THREE YEARS AGO!! IN 2005!!
Perhaps they would also like to know that there is not the slightest indication in Thompson's trick advert that relates to any of the above other than " OCTOBER RECORD BREAKER.....Kinnaird 70-1"
I believe that the Racing Post know of the existence of that misleading website advert of one of their advertisers. I also believe that it has been a Thompson website tipping service promotion for many years. I believe even given the low moral standards the The Racing Post require from their advertisers, that even they will have to admit that by selling a tipping service based on a 3 year old winner ....IS IMMORAL!
Now that the RP know that one of their advertisers is making a mockery of the ASA code of conduct, and has been doing so for years, will they now be taking the necessary action to protect their readers from the unscrupulous tipsters who trick and deceive the RP readers by dealing in immoral and misleading adverts that pollute their newspaper. If they do know, why do they allow ? As always it is the vulnerable who pays the price for such contempt and misleading trickery by the unscupulous.
The Racing Post say "they have a dedicated team to ensure that all ad claims are factual and accurate. Mr Thompson's adverts reflect his recent performance prior to the advert and are accurate regarding the claims made.
Does "The dedicated "RP team" that allow factual and accurate claims consider that a tipster who's astronomical losses cause him to stretch his winners over 4 weeks AFTER his tips have won, as acceptable? Yes they do! After all the winner was only given 4 weeks "PRIOR" to the claim in the advert. BUT THE RP READERS WERE TRICKED BY NOT BEING TOLD!!!!!!
But where is the moral cut off point Racing Post? 4 days? 4 weeks? 4 months? 4 years? 40 years? All are "prior" to the advert are'nt they?
It would appear that the Racing Post are as adapt at abusing the ASA code as the tipsters who advertise in their newspaper.
The 'prior' word they use is relevent. It is not posative as in '28 days'.... Prior can mean any amount of time. Clever words RP!!!....Clever words!! Smart trick stuff, just like your advertisers,
OK RP. Lets wrap it up in a knutshell. What do you mean by "PRIOR?"
Think about it
ps. Any whistle blowers out there!!
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TOMMO RACING POST AD STRETCHES WINNERS FOR 4 WKS.
TOMMO'S WEB AD STRETCHES WINNERS FROM 3 YRS AGO!
I say that is misleading information.
I say that is deceiving information.
I say that is trick advertising.
I say that is fraudulent advertising.
I SAY DEREK THOMSON'S ADVERTS ARE EXTREMELY MISLEADING!
The Racing Post are on record as saying
“All information carried within the adverts conform with all Advertising Standards guidelines for sports tipster service, as is with all tipster ads carried in the Racing Post.” ......
I say. Do they really?... What? Boasting about winners 4 weeks past their sell by date? And the RP say this conforms with the ASA guidelines? I'll have to have a word with the ASA about that one!
Perhaps The Racing would like to know that their advertiser Derek Thompson is currently advertising a horse on his website that won in OCTOBER!!! And perhaps they would also like to know that the horse Derek Thomson is boasting as a winner in OCTOBER relates to a winner from over 3 OVER THREE YEARS AGO!! IN 2005!!
Perhaps they would also like to know that there is not the slightest indication in Thompson's trick advert that relates to any of the above other than " OCTOBER RECORD BREAKER.....Kinnaird 70-1"
I believe that the Racing Post know of the existence of that misleading website advert of one of their advertisers. I also believe that it has been a Thompson website tipping service promotion for many years. I believe even given the low moral standards the The Racing Post require from their advertisers, that even they will have to admit that by selling a tipping service based on a 3 year old winner ....IS IMMORAL!
Now that the RP know that one of their advertisers is making a mockery of the ASA code of conduct, and has been doing so for years, will they now be taking the necessary action to protect their readers from the unscrupulous tipsters who trick and deceive the RP readers by dealing in immoral and misleading adverts that pollute their newspaper. If they do know, why do they allow ? As always it is the vulnerable who pays the price for such contempt and misleading trickery by the unscupulous.
The Racing Post say "they have a dedicated team to ensure that all ad claims are factual and accurate. Mr Thompson's adverts reflect his recent performance prior to the advert and are accurate regarding the claims made.
Does "The dedicated "RP team" that allow factual and accurate claims consider that a tipster who's astronomical losses cause him to stretch his winners over 4 weeks AFTER his tips have won, as acceptable? Yes they do! After all the winner was only given 4 weeks "PRIOR" to the claim in the advert. BUT THE RP READERS WERE TRICKED BY NOT BEING TOLD!!!!!!
But where is the moral cut off point Racing Post? 4 days? 4 weeks? 4 months? 4 years? 40 years? All are "prior" to the advert are'nt they?
It would appear that the Racing Post are as adapt at abusing the ASA code as the tipsters who advertise in their newspaper.
The 'prior' word they use is relevent. It is not posative as in '28 days'.... Prior can mean any amount of time. Clever words RP!!!....Clever words!! Smart trick stuff, just like your advertisers,
OK RP. Lets wrap it up in a knutshell. What do you mean by "PRIOR?"
Think about it
ps. Any whistle blowers out there!!
.
Sunday 25 January 2009
Tommo's 'hopeless' tips, 3 exampes
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JUST 3 EXAMPLES OF THOMSON'S "HOPELESS" TIPPING.
What you will see below is a list of THOMPSON'S proven ability NOT to produce a profit (figures to a £50 stake). He is notorious for making astronomical losses and everybody in the racing industry know it. It's the poor guys whose money he bleeds that do not
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THE RACING POST can confirm these results are correct. They printed an article relating to the appalling losses over a period of 10 continuous months
March.2008 ....... LOST £1514
April..2008 ....... LOST £400
May...2008 ....... LOST £500
Jun....2008 ....... LOST £1125
Jul....2008 ....... LOST £1260
Aug...2008 ....... LOST £5260
Sep...2008 ....... LOST £260
Oct...2008 ....... LOST £200
Nov...2008 ....... LOST £840
TOTAL LOSS OVER 10 MONTHS TIPPING HAD YOU BET ON HIS SELECTIONS TO A £50 STAKE BARING IN MIND HE IS A PROFESSIONAL TIPSTER WOULD BE..... £11,359. AND HE CALLS HIMSELF A PROFESSIONAL RACING TIPSTER!!...HE IS!!!.... A BLOODY USELESS ONE!....THE STATS ON THIS PAGE PROVE IT!!!..... BUT HIS AVERTS INDICATE OHERWISE!!..
SCAM! ...CON!!
The Racing Post editorial said....... “According to the OLBG data, since he (Thompson) began in March, Tommo has yet to have a single winning month. Up to the end of last month he was £11,359 down" The above can all be proved in The Racing Post article of the 9th December....£11,359 LOSS
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THE GUARDIAN 17t June 2001....Thompson's HOPELESSNESS at tipping winners, was exposed in another Newspaper, The Guardian who carried out a very crushing expose of his wretched tipping service. They monitored him for a month and he LOST £1846,05 to a £50 stake. The proof can be found in the Guardian newspaper dated 17th June 2001 with asuper editorial regarding Thompson... IT SAYS IT ALL!... £1846.05 LOSS
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If further proof be needed as to how hopeless Thompson is as a racing tipster take a look at this, In October 2008 an independent survey was carried out on one of his three 090 PRS tipping services. Thompson LOST £1400
The type of results his clients can expect are as follows
The month is Oct. 2008 (31 days) £50 stake
32 Selections
29 losers (inc 2 non rnrs.. charged for(WHY?)
3 winners at 7-4, 7-4, 11-8.
Win total ……………………................... £240.38
Call cost charges ……................. £54.25 LOSS
Bet Loss total .(£5 stk)............ £1350.00 LOSS
TOTAL LOSS (31days)................. £1163.87 LOSS
IN JUST 1 MONTH THOMPSON LOST:- A STAGGERING £1163.87 LOSS
The Racing Post can confirm the above to be true
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SHOULD YOU REQUIRE ANY FURTHER PROOF, I CAN SUPPLY VOLUMES!
JUST 3 EXAMPLES OF THOMSON'S "HOPELESS" TIPPING.
What you will see below is a list of THOMPSON'S proven ability NOT to produce a profit (figures to a £50 stake). He is notorious for making astronomical losses and everybody in the racing industry know it. It's the poor guys whose money he bleeds that do not
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THE RACING POST can confirm these results are correct. They printed an article relating to the appalling losses over a period of 10 continuous months
March.2008 ....... LOST £1514
April..2008 ....... LOST £400
May...2008 ....... LOST £500
Jun....2008 ....... LOST £1125
Jul....2008 ....... LOST £1260
Aug...2008 ....... LOST £5260
Sep...2008 ....... LOST £260
Oct...2008 ....... LOST £200
Nov...2008 ....... LOST £840
TOTAL LOSS OVER 10 MONTHS TIPPING HAD YOU BET ON HIS SELECTIONS TO A £50 STAKE BARING IN MIND HE IS A PROFESSIONAL TIPSTER WOULD BE..... £11,359. AND HE CALLS HIMSELF A PROFESSIONAL RACING TIPSTER!!...HE IS!!!.... A BLOODY USELESS ONE!....THE STATS ON THIS PAGE PROVE IT!!!..... BUT HIS AVERTS INDICATE OHERWISE!!..
SCAM! ...CON!!
The Racing Post editorial said....... “According to the OLBG data, since he (Thompson) began in March, Tommo has yet to have a single winning month. Up to the end of last month he was £11,359 down" The above can all be proved in The Racing Post article of the 9th December....£11,359 LOSS
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THE GUARDIAN 17t June 2001....Thompson's HOPELESSNESS at tipping winners, was exposed in another Newspaper, The Guardian who carried out a very crushing expose of his wretched tipping service. They monitored him for a month and he LOST £1846,05 to a £50 stake. The proof can be found in the Guardian newspaper dated 17th June 2001 with asuper editorial regarding Thompson... IT SAYS IT ALL!... £1846.05 LOSS
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If further proof be needed as to how hopeless Thompson is as a racing tipster take a look at this, In October 2008 an independent survey was carried out on one of his three 090 PRS tipping services. Thompson LOST £1400
The type of results his clients can expect are as follows
The month is Oct. 2008 (31 days) £50 stake
32 Selections
29 losers (inc 2 non rnrs.. charged for(WHY?)
3 winners at 7-4, 7-4, 11-8.
Win total ……………………................... £240.38
Call cost charges ……................. £54.25 LOSS
Bet Loss total .(£5 stk)............ £1350.00 LOSS
TOTAL LOSS (31days)................. £1163.87 LOSS
IN JUST 1 MONTH THOMPSON LOST:- A STAGGERING £1163.87 LOSS
The Racing Post can confirm the above to be true
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SHOULD YOU REQUIRE ANY FURTHER PROOF, I CAN SUPPLY VOLUMES!
Betfair Thompson thread zapping
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HERE'S A QUESTION THAT WILL MAKE YOU THINK.
Why is it that 'Derek Thompson' Betfair horse racing threads never reach 'drop off'?
Why is it they always get pulled, usually before they reach the bottom of the first page. Is it because they get nasty? Become rude? Take the 'p'. Become obscene. Become angry? Become hateful. Become vindictive, Become spiteful? Or is there some other reason?
What other reason could there be for people to be so nasty towards the man thus promoting thread removal. Maybe they know of his reputation as a hopeless misleading racing tipster who stretches his boasts about winners from 3 years ago! Maybe that has got something to do with the strong anti-Tommo feeling every time a Tommo thread appears.
There may be another reason of cause........ They may all know he operates a fraudulent scam/con tipping service and have to vent their anger because THEY KNOW!!.... The tragedy is that the vulnerable and the gullible do not! And Thompson preys upon the innocence of such people by sheer unadulterated trickery.... The man is an imoral person... I think I may now have worked out why the Tommo threads never go the distance.
It tells it's own story don't it?
Think about it
HERE'S A QUESTION THAT WILL MAKE YOU THINK.
Why is it that 'Derek Thompson' Betfair horse racing threads never reach 'drop off'?
Why is it they always get pulled, usually before they reach the bottom of the first page. Is it because they get nasty? Become rude? Take the 'p'. Become obscene. Become angry? Become hateful. Become vindictive, Become spiteful? Or is there some other reason?
What other reason could there be for people to be so nasty towards the man thus promoting thread removal. Maybe they know of his reputation as a hopeless misleading racing tipster who stretches his boasts about winners from 3 years ago! Maybe that has got something to do with the strong anti-Tommo feeling every time a Tommo thread appears.
There may be another reason of cause........ They may all know he operates a fraudulent scam/con tipping service and have to vent their anger because THEY KNOW!!.... The tragedy is that the vulnerable and the gullible do not! And Thompson preys upon the innocence of such people by sheer unadulterated trickery.... The man is an imoral person... I think I may now have worked out why the Tommo threads never go the distance.
It tells it's own story don't it?
Think about it
Wikipedia - removes the proof (3)
PART 3....An entry concerning Derek Thompson, the racing tipster, was made in Wikipedia. It lasted about 2 days... IT WAS THEN WITHDRAWN. As is the usual practice when any negative voice is made concerning the scam-ad man by the people that know of his scams.
Part entry stated he was a HOPELESS RACING TIPSTER ..... Wikipidia removed that remark. If I can prove to Wikipidia that Derek Thompson IS A HOPELESS RACING TIPSTER" perhaps they will consider its replacement. After all I shall show and prove that what I say is 100% the truth and correct. I would ask Wikipedia, on what grounds would they not do so?. Below is a copy of the Wikipidia Thompson entry that only lasted 2 days
"He also offers a tipping service which has gained notoriety amongst racing fans for being hopeless both in terms of tipping winners and misleading people by referring to winners tipped up over 3 years".
Below is an illustration and proof of Thompson's HOPELESSNESS as a horse racing tipster. NOTORIOULY HOPELESS one might say!
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EXTRACT FROM THE GUARDIAN NEWSPAPER 17th Jun 2001 (guardian.co.uk,)
The heading = "Tommo the terrible tipster"
You win some, you lose some, and then you lose some more. Alan English on telephone tipping lines: 'Only an act of God can stop Dubai Seven Stars winning' said telephone tipster The Sweeney. It lost.
Derek Thompson: 89 tips 72 losers
Derek Thompson: 89 tips 72 losers. The essence of the tipster's art has always been to convince the gullible that the bookies can be bashed and that enormous profits are just around the corner.
In Flann O'Brien's 1939 novel At Swim Two Birds, this approach is memorably captured in a letter written by a certain Vernie Wright, a tipster with a Newmarket address.
'Bounty Queen was indeed a great disappointment,' Vernie writes, 'but anybody leaving me now because of bad luck would indeed be a "puzzler".
You had the losers, why not row in and make a packet over the winners that are now our due.
SENSATIONAL NEWS has reached me that certain interests have planned a gigantic coup involving a certain animal who has been saved for the past month. To all my friends forwarding 6d and two SAE's I will present this THREE-STAR CAST-IRON PLUNGER and we will have the win of our lives and all the bad luck forgotten.'
Six decades on, sixpence and a stamped addressed envelope have given way to the premium-rate phonecall, but the flow of money from punter to bookmaker has never been interrupted.
'All horseplayers die broke,' wrote Damon Runyon in 1938. A select few professional tipsters are in a position to disagree. One is Melvyn Collier, the Racing Post's Pricewise correspondent, who will soon join the ranks of those with private subscription services.
By limiting his advice to a handful of races every week, those for which the bookmakers offer morning prices, Collier has turned a profit for eight successive years. The only secret, he says, is assiduous study of the form book - and that would also apply to the country's top (and very expensive) tipping lines, ****** and Marten Julian.
Another tipster with a Newmarket address is Derek Thompson, better known as a Channel 4 racing presenter. Asked for an opinion on the merits of his fellow tipster, Collier hesitated. And then he laughed. Read on, and you'll discover why.
Clean-cut, forever smiling and keen to please - if Derek Thompson was a novel he'd be something by Barbara Cartland. His Channel 4 Racing bosses admire him because they know that if a 90-second gap appears, Thompson will ad lib 90 seconds precisely. 'Tommo' sells himself expertly as the punter's pal. On our evidence he's anything but.
Tommo brings this same effortless quality to his other job, that of professional tipster. Flick through the Racing Post and you will find him, along with many others, casting his net for more customers. Need some tips for Royal Ascot? Tommo can oblige. Just call 0901 5638238 and, for 60p a minute, you're sorted.If you have an aversion to premium-rate telephone numbers, you can pay up front, £199.99 per year, to join the Derek Thompson Racing Club and get access to a non-premium line. There's even a visit to a Newmarket yard thrown in, an opportunity to see Tommo in the flesh. As Tommo says: 'Shame on you if you haven't joined!'
But if you're the cautious type, the kind who prefers to try before you buy, there's no shame in not joining. Far from it. In the spirit of punter solidarity, Observer Sport called Thompson's tipping line every day for four consecutive weeks, as well as those of two of his rivals. We staked a notional £50 to win on each selection and put a stopwatch on every call.
Of the 89 horses tipped by Thompson - many of them obvious and short-priced - 72 were beaten. Even though he was 40p a minute cheaper than his two rivals, one call to his line can still cost four times as much the Racing Post .
Thompson seems to believe that his callers live in a land where newspapers have been suppressed and he is the source of all information.
'I've got very good news,' he said during the second week, when he was tipping at Pontefract, as though it would never have occurred to anyone that In Space, the 5-4 favourite in the 2.45, might be in with a chance. The horse finished fifth, the same as Puffin, Thompson's tip in the 4.20. After asserting that Benedectine would 'take the beating', he moved on to a lengthy plug for his racing club.
Benedictine was second. Three tips, three losers, but for Thompson, there was no need for an explanation. Had he backed any of the three himself? Did he feel his callers' pain? We can, perhaps, deduce something from the words with which he greeted his regulars the next morning.
'Hi, it's Tommo - and I've got some good news.' It was as if Pontefract had never happened.
One of Thompson's rival services, The Sweeney, is more into bombast than intrigue. Every tip is 'a pearler' that will put his clients 'in clover', every defeat attributable to factors beyond his control: the jockey, the misleading going, the 25-1 shot that should never have been there.
His faith in his own powers would be touching, were it not so misguided. 'I have no doubt whatsoever about the victory of Dubai Seven Stars,' he said on 17 May. Only 'an act of God' could stop this filly. Step forward that act of God in the shape of Arrive, the winner at 6-1.
After tipping four losers, The Sweeney will admit to being 'not totally inspired by the profits'. In week two, he made 24 selections, but the real story was not that 19 of them were beaten, it was that learning their identity cost £64.75, or £2.69 for every tip. At 71p per tip, Thompson was practically benevolent by comparison.
The Sweeney was a master of the delaying tactic. He didn't quite reveal what he had had for breakfast, but it was close. 'Without further ado, let's skate over to Ripon,' he said one day. 'Well, not in a literal sense, of course, but with your newspapers, or whatever...'
The third tipster we followed, Henry Ponsonby, stressed almost daily that he rides out for Mick Channon, but otherwise played a straight bat. He still ran up losses of £748.10.
Over the four weeks, Thompson's tips resulted in a loss of £1,846.05, which rose to £1,921.37, with the cost of calls. Fighting off stiff competition from The Sweeney, he was confirmed as our survey's worst telephone tipster of the four weeks we covered only on the last day of 25, thanks to a clean sweep of five losers at Newbury and Thirsk, including 11-8 and 7-4 favourites. Of course, it may have been a bad four weeks for our selected tipsters, and they may not be alone in that.
Fourteen of Thompson's 17 winners were returned at 3-1 or worse; five were odds-on. In short, they were never going to put callers ahead of the game. In the Channel 4 Racing Guide to Form and Betting , Thompson's advice to readers is brief: 'Never bet odds-on - it's as simple as that.'
If only. On 11 May, Thompson plumbed the depths by tipping two 4-6 shots, both of which were beaten.
On Friday, Thompson defended his tipping line: 'If people don't like the service, then don't ring.'
Asked how much he thought callers should have on his tips, he said, 'At the most, a fiver.' Did he back his own selections? That, said Tommo, was 'a very personal question'. When pressed, he replied that he invested his own money 'as often as I see fit'.
HOW MUCH MORE EVIDENCE DO WIKIPEDIA REQUIRE FOR THOMPSON TO BE RECOGNISED AS TO WHAT HE IS,..... A HOPELESS RACING TISTER.....A VERY HOPELESS RACING TIPSTER ..... AS HIS 090 PAL NEVISON MIGHT SAY.
A BLOODY GOOD "HOPELESS" RACING TIPSTER!!!
THINK ABOUT IT
Part entry stated he was a HOPELESS RACING TIPSTER ..... Wikipidia removed that remark. If I can prove to Wikipidia that Derek Thompson IS A HOPELESS RACING TIPSTER" perhaps they will consider its replacement. After all I shall show and prove that what I say is 100% the truth and correct. I would ask Wikipedia, on what grounds would they not do so?. Below is a copy of the Wikipidia Thompson entry that only lasted 2 days
"He also offers a tipping service which has gained notoriety amongst racing fans for being hopeless both in terms of tipping winners and misleading people by referring to winners tipped up over 3 years".
Below is an illustration and proof of Thompson's HOPELESSNESS as a horse racing tipster. NOTORIOULY HOPELESS one might say!
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EXTRACT FROM THE GUARDIAN NEWSPAPER 17th Jun 2001 (guardian.co.uk,)
The heading = "Tommo the terrible tipster"
You win some, you lose some, and then you lose some more. Alan English on telephone tipping lines: 'Only an act of God can stop Dubai Seven Stars winning' said telephone tipster The Sweeney. It lost.
Derek Thompson: 89 tips 72 losers
Derek Thompson: 89 tips 72 losers. The essence of the tipster's art has always been to convince the gullible that the bookies can be bashed and that enormous profits are just around the corner.
In Flann O'Brien's 1939 novel At Swim Two Birds, this approach is memorably captured in a letter written by a certain Vernie Wright, a tipster with a Newmarket address.
'Bounty Queen was indeed a great disappointment,' Vernie writes, 'but anybody leaving me now because of bad luck would indeed be a "puzzler".
You had the losers, why not row in and make a packet over the winners that are now our due.
SENSATIONAL NEWS has reached me that certain interests have planned a gigantic coup involving a certain animal who has been saved for the past month. To all my friends forwarding 6d and two SAE's I will present this THREE-STAR CAST-IRON PLUNGER and we will have the win of our lives and all the bad luck forgotten.'
Six decades on, sixpence and a stamped addressed envelope have given way to the premium-rate phonecall, but the flow of money from punter to bookmaker has never been interrupted.
'All horseplayers die broke,' wrote Damon Runyon in 1938. A select few professional tipsters are in a position to disagree. One is Melvyn Collier, the Racing Post's Pricewise correspondent, who will soon join the ranks of those with private subscription services.
By limiting his advice to a handful of races every week, those for which the bookmakers offer morning prices, Collier has turned a profit for eight successive years. The only secret, he says, is assiduous study of the form book - and that would also apply to the country's top (and very expensive) tipping lines, ****** and Marten Julian.
Another tipster with a Newmarket address is Derek Thompson, better known as a Channel 4 racing presenter. Asked for an opinion on the merits of his fellow tipster, Collier hesitated. And then he laughed. Read on, and you'll discover why.
Clean-cut, forever smiling and keen to please - if Derek Thompson was a novel he'd be something by Barbara Cartland. His Channel 4 Racing bosses admire him because they know that if a 90-second gap appears, Thompson will ad lib 90 seconds precisely. 'Tommo' sells himself expertly as the punter's pal. On our evidence he's anything but.
Tommo brings this same effortless quality to his other job, that of professional tipster. Flick through the Racing Post and you will find him, along with many others, casting his net for more customers. Need some tips for Royal Ascot? Tommo can oblige. Just call 0901 5638238 and, for 60p a minute, you're sorted.If you have an aversion to premium-rate telephone numbers, you can pay up front, £199.99 per year, to join the Derek Thompson Racing Club and get access to a non-premium line. There's even a visit to a Newmarket yard thrown in, an opportunity to see Tommo in the flesh. As Tommo says: 'Shame on you if you haven't joined!'
But if you're the cautious type, the kind who prefers to try before you buy, there's no shame in not joining. Far from it. In the spirit of punter solidarity, Observer Sport called Thompson's tipping line every day for four consecutive weeks, as well as those of two of his rivals. We staked a notional £50 to win on each selection and put a stopwatch on every call.
Of the 89 horses tipped by Thompson - many of them obvious and short-priced - 72 were beaten. Even though he was 40p a minute cheaper than his two rivals, one call to his line can still cost four times as much the Racing Post .
Thompson seems to believe that his callers live in a land where newspapers have been suppressed and he is the source of all information.
'I've got very good news,' he said during the second week, when he was tipping at Pontefract, as though it would never have occurred to anyone that In Space, the 5-4 favourite in the 2.45, might be in with a chance. The horse finished fifth, the same as Puffin, Thompson's tip in the 4.20. After asserting that Benedectine would 'take the beating', he moved on to a lengthy plug for his racing club.
Benedictine was second. Three tips, three losers, but for Thompson, there was no need for an explanation. Had he backed any of the three himself? Did he feel his callers' pain? We can, perhaps, deduce something from the words with which he greeted his regulars the next morning.
'Hi, it's Tommo - and I've got some good news.' It was as if Pontefract had never happened.
One of Thompson's rival services, The Sweeney, is more into bombast than intrigue. Every tip is 'a pearler' that will put his clients 'in clover', every defeat attributable to factors beyond his control: the jockey, the misleading going, the 25-1 shot that should never have been there.
His faith in his own powers would be touching, were it not so misguided. 'I have no doubt whatsoever about the victory of Dubai Seven Stars,' he said on 17 May. Only 'an act of God' could stop this filly. Step forward that act of God in the shape of Arrive, the winner at 6-1.
After tipping four losers, The Sweeney will admit to being 'not totally inspired by the profits'. In week two, he made 24 selections, but the real story was not that 19 of them were beaten, it was that learning their identity cost £64.75, or £2.69 for every tip. At 71p per tip, Thompson was practically benevolent by comparison.
The Sweeney was a master of the delaying tactic. He didn't quite reveal what he had had for breakfast, but it was close. 'Without further ado, let's skate over to Ripon,' he said one day. 'Well, not in a literal sense, of course, but with your newspapers, or whatever...'
The third tipster we followed, Henry Ponsonby, stressed almost daily that he rides out for Mick Channon, but otherwise played a straight bat. He still ran up losses of £748.10.
Over the four weeks, Thompson's tips resulted in a loss of £1,846.05, which rose to £1,921.37, with the cost of calls. Fighting off stiff competition from The Sweeney, he was confirmed as our survey's worst telephone tipster of the four weeks we covered only on the last day of 25, thanks to a clean sweep of five losers at Newbury and Thirsk, including 11-8 and 7-4 favourites. Of course, it may have been a bad four weeks for our selected tipsters, and they may not be alone in that.
Fourteen of Thompson's 17 winners were returned at 3-1 or worse; five were odds-on. In short, they were never going to put callers ahead of the game. In the Channel 4 Racing Guide to Form and Betting , Thompson's advice to readers is brief: 'Never bet odds-on - it's as simple as that.'
If only. On 11 May, Thompson plumbed the depths by tipping two 4-6 shots, both of which were beaten.
On Friday, Thompson defended his tipping line: 'If people don't like the service, then don't ring.'
Asked how much he thought callers should have on his tips, he said, 'At the most, a fiver.' Did he back his own selections? That, said Tommo, was 'a very personal question'. When pressed, he replied that he invested his own money 'as often as I see fit'.
HOW MUCH MORE EVIDENCE DO WIKIPEDIA REQUIRE FOR THOMPSON TO BE RECOGNISED AS TO WHAT HE IS,..... A HOPELESS RACING TISTER.....A VERY HOPELESS RACING TIPSTER ..... AS HIS 090 PAL NEVISON MIGHT SAY.
A BLOODY GOOD "HOPELESS" RACING TIPSTER!!!
THINK ABOUT IT
Wikipedia - removes the proof (2)
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PART 2....An entry concerning Derek Thompson, the racing tipster, was made in Wikipedia. It lasted about 2 days... IT WAS THEN WITHDRAWN. As is the usual practice when any negative voice is made concerning the scam-ad man by the people that know of his scams.
Part entry stated he was a HOPELESS RACING TIPSTER ..... Wikipidia removed that remark. If I can prove to Wikipidia that Derek Thompson IS A HOPELESS RACING TIPSTER" perhaps they will consider its replacement. After all I shall show and prove that what I say is 100% the truth and correct. I would ask Wikipedia, on what grounds would they not do so?. Below is a copy of the Wikipidia Thompson entry that only lasted 2 days
"He also offers a tipping service which has gained notoriety amongst racing fans for being hopeless both in terms of tipping winners and misleading people by referring to winners tipped up over 3 years".
Below is an illustration and proof of Thompson's HOPELESSNESS as a horse racing tipster. NOTORIOULY HOPELESS one might say!
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THE RACING POST THEMSELVES ADMIT THOMPSON IS USELESS. WHAT BETTER PROOF THAN THE PAPER THAT PROOFS HIS ADVERT (THE MIRROR TRINITY GROUP) TELLING WIKIPEDA THAT THOMSON IS "HOPELESS"!
AS PROOFED BY THE RACING POST!!!!!!!!!!!
AS PROOFED BY THE RACING POST!!!!!!!!!!!
AS PROOFED BY THE RACING POST!!!!!!!!!!!
On the 12rh Dec, an article appeared in the Racing Post regarding Derek Thompson's ability to tip horses. Below is an extract from that article.
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"Judging by the evidence at the 'On Line Betting Guide' means that Derek Thompson is in real danger of becoming the most hirsute man ever to wield a pin.
Earlier this month, Tommo took the plunge and joined in the fun at the betting portal (OLBG), posting his selections in the sites vibrant tipster competition, and running a blog to share his thoughts on the punting process
It was a bold move for any punter, putting one's powers to the test in such a public way. I had a go myself once, and my toes still curl involuntary at the memory.
But for a professional tipster who already gets generous portions of flack, and was once bested in public by a small dog, Tommo's decision to enter the arena was a mighty testament to British pluck.
I'm sorry to say, that having waited as long as I dare to allow for statistical anomalies, the results (Thompson's) have been poor reward for his dauntless spirit of adventure
According to the OLBG data, since he began in March 2008 Tommo has yet to record a single winning month. He was £11,359 down and this despite putting in all that leg-work on the Newmarket gallops, rain or shine
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And that gentlemen is an article written in The Racing Post on the 12th December. The highlights are mine.
I believe that Derek Thompson is currently running three (090) tipping lines and a subscription service and who knows how many more.....Every single one of them is making astronomical losses similar to the article above. And that can be proven.
PART 2....An entry concerning Derek Thompson, the racing tipster, was made in Wikipedia. It lasted about 2 days... IT WAS THEN WITHDRAWN. As is the usual practice when any negative voice is made concerning the scam-ad man by the people that know of his scams.
Part entry stated he was a HOPELESS RACING TIPSTER ..... Wikipidia removed that remark. If I can prove to Wikipidia that Derek Thompson IS A HOPELESS RACING TIPSTER" perhaps they will consider its replacement. After all I shall show and prove that what I say is 100% the truth and correct. I would ask Wikipedia, on what grounds would they not do so?. Below is a copy of the Wikipidia Thompson entry that only lasted 2 days
"He also offers a tipping service which has gained notoriety amongst racing fans for being hopeless both in terms of tipping winners and misleading people by referring to winners tipped up over 3 years".
Below is an illustration and proof of Thompson's HOPELESSNESS as a horse racing tipster. NOTORIOULY HOPELESS one might say!
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THE RACING POST THEMSELVES ADMIT THOMPSON IS USELESS. WHAT BETTER PROOF THAN THE PAPER THAT PROOFS HIS ADVERT (THE MIRROR TRINITY GROUP) TELLING WIKIPEDA THAT THOMSON IS "HOPELESS"!
AS PROOFED BY THE RACING POST!!!!!!!!!!!
AS PROOFED BY THE RACING POST!!!!!!!!!!!
AS PROOFED BY THE RACING POST!!!!!!!!!!!
On the 12rh Dec, an article appeared in the Racing Post regarding Derek Thompson's ability to tip horses. Below is an extract from that article.
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"Judging by the evidence at the 'On Line Betting Guide' means that Derek Thompson is in real danger of becoming the most hirsute man ever to wield a pin.
Earlier this month, Tommo took the plunge and joined in the fun at the betting portal (OLBG), posting his selections in the sites vibrant tipster competition, and running a blog to share his thoughts on the punting process
It was a bold move for any punter, putting one's powers to the test in such a public way. I had a go myself once, and my toes still curl involuntary at the memory.
But for a professional tipster who already gets generous portions of flack, and was once bested in public by a small dog, Tommo's decision to enter the arena was a mighty testament to British pluck.
I'm sorry to say, that having waited as long as I dare to allow for statistical anomalies, the results (Thompson's) have been poor reward for his dauntless spirit of adventure
According to the OLBG data, since he began in March 2008 Tommo has yet to record a single winning month. He was £11,359 down and this despite putting in all that leg-work on the Newmarket gallops, rain or shine
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And that gentlemen is an article written in The Racing Post on the 12th December. The highlights are mine.
I believe that Derek Thompson is currently running three (090) tipping lines and a subscription service and who knows how many more.....Every single one of them is making astronomical losses similar to the article above. And that can be proven.
Wikipedia - removes the truth (1)
PART 3.An entry concerning Derek Thompson, the racing tipster, was made in Wikipedia. It lasted about 2 days... IT WAS THEN WITHDRAWN. As is the usual practice when any negative voice is made concerning the scam-ad man by the people that know of his scams.
Part entry stated he was a HOPELESS RACING TIPSTER ..... Wikipidia removed that remark. If I can prove to Wikipidia that Derek Thompson IS A HOPELESS RACING TIPSTER" perhaps they will consider its replacement. After all I shall show and prove that what I say is 100% the truth and correct. I would ask Wikipedia, on what grounds would they not do so?. Below is a copy of the Wikipidia Thompson entry that only lasted 2 days
"He also offers a tipping service which has gained notoriety amongst racing fans for being hopeless both in terms of tipping winners and misleading people by referring to winners tipped up over 3 years".
Below is an illustration and proof of Thompson's HOPELESSNESS as a horse racing tipster. NOTORIOULY HOPELESS one might say!
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Monday, 19 January 2009
THOMPSONS RIP OFF BUZZ LINE
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THOMPSONS RIP OFF "BUZZ LINE" AS ADVERTISED IN THE RACING POST
AS ADVERTISED IN THE RACING POST"
If you ever wanted first hand proof that Thompson is totally "HOPELESS" at tipping horses, (if you have not been convinced already), and that he is still very capable of ripping off his innocent victims by selling indecent garbage in exchange for honest money, read on. ..... At last I have acquired some recent stats I am certain they are right to the last penny, coz the guy that gave them to me is as honest as i am! Apart from all me other failings, I AM DECENT AND HONEST! UNLIKE DEREK THOMPSON! Check the words out in the dictionary and you will see what I mean! Right! Here it is!
The month is Oct. 2008 (31 days)…. Thompson's 090 Buzz Line
32 Selections
29 losers (inc 2 non rnrs.. charged for(WHY?)
3 winners at 7-4, 7-4, 11-8.
Win total ……………………................... £24.38
Call cost charges ……................ £54.25 LOSS
Bet Loss total .(£5 stk)............ £135.00 LOSS
TOTAL LOSS (31days)................. £164.87 LOSS
By betting just £5 per 'Buzz Bet'
THOMPSON LOST:- A STAGGERING £ 164.87
Proof that he is a "HOPELESS TIPSTER
Part entry stated he was a HOPELESS RACING TIPSTER ..... Wikipidia removed that remark. If I can prove to Wikipidia that Derek Thompson IS A HOPELESS RACING TIPSTER" perhaps they will consider its replacement. After all I shall show and prove that what I say is 100% the truth and correct. I would ask Wikipedia, on what grounds would they not do so?. Below is a copy of the Wikipidia Thompson entry that only lasted 2 days
"He also offers a tipping service which has gained notoriety amongst racing fans for being hopeless both in terms of tipping winners and misleading people by referring to winners tipped up over 3 years".
Below is an illustration and proof of Thompson's HOPELESSNESS as a horse racing tipster. NOTORIOULY HOPELESS one might say!
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Monday, 19 January 2009
THOMPSONS RIP OFF BUZZ LINE
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THOMPSONS RIP OFF "BUZZ LINE" AS ADVERTISED IN THE RACING POST
AS ADVERTISED IN THE RACING POST"
If you ever wanted first hand proof that Thompson is totally "HOPELESS" at tipping horses, (if you have not been convinced already), and that he is still very capable of ripping off his innocent victims by selling indecent garbage in exchange for honest money, read on. ..... At last I have acquired some recent stats I am certain they are right to the last penny, coz the guy that gave them to me is as honest as i am! Apart from all me other failings, I AM DECENT AND HONEST! UNLIKE DEREK THOMPSON! Check the words out in the dictionary and you will see what I mean! Right! Here it is!
The month is Oct. 2008 (31 days)…. Thompson's 090 Buzz Line
32 Selections
29 losers (inc 2 non rnrs.. charged for(WHY?)
3 winners at 7-4, 7-4, 11-8.
Win total ……………………................... £24.38
Call cost charges ……................ £54.25 LOSS
Bet Loss total .(£5 stk)............ £135.00 LOSS
TOTAL LOSS (31days)................. £164.87 LOSS
By betting just £5 per 'Buzz Bet'
THOMPSON LOST:- A STAGGERING £ 164.87
Proof that he is a "HOPELESS TIPSTER
Wikipedia wthdraws the truth
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Wikipedia lit the flame and now it is no more. It has gone. One up for the scam-ad man
Now what did the withdrawn entry say?
It said ......"He also offers a tipping service which has gained notoriety amongst racing fans for being hopeless"
Is that not the truth? His tipping services are probably the worst on the planet! FACT AND PROVEN! and just about every racing person in the country know they are "hopeless" except the poor 'Newby' individuals that fall for Thompson's scam
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It said that :-......"- - both in terms of tipping winners and misleading people by referring to winners tipped up over 3 years ago.Is not a racing tipster who boasts about winners from 3 years ago in his advert not "MISLEADING" the reader of that advert! He most certainly is.
Is that not the truth? Yes it is. FACT AND PROVABLE!
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It said that:-----"He was once beaten in a tipping competition by a dog. No surprise there, then" need I say more....but I will!
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Now ask yourselves this question.
Why would Wikipedia withdraw an entry which told the truth and the truth can be proven? The entry was truthful to the very last word and could be proven.
Think about it.... If the entry can be 100% proven, why should it be withdrawn. It was not abusive, It was not rude. It just told the truth.
Instead of Wikipedia helping to protect their innocent readers from con-men they withdraw the evidence that could protect the reader. They remove the undercoat and leave the gloss behind that will trick the customer into thinking that Derek Thompson is a moral person. By doing so the reader of Wikipedia will see a nice person not knowing that the nice person who
"offers a tipping service which has gained notoriety amongst racing fans for being hopeless - both in terms of tipping winners and misleading people by referring to winners tipped up over 3 years ago. He was once beaten in a tipping competition by a dog. No surprise there, then"......is a con-man PROVEN!
Think about it.
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Wikipedia lit the flame and now it is no more. It has gone. One up for the scam-ad man
Now what did the withdrawn entry say?
It said ......"He also offers a tipping service which has gained notoriety amongst racing fans for being hopeless"
Is that not the truth? His tipping services are probably the worst on the planet! FACT AND PROVEN! and just about every racing person in the country know they are "hopeless" except the poor 'Newby' individuals that fall for Thompson's scam
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It said that :-......"- - both in terms of tipping winners and misleading people by referring to winners tipped up over 3 years ago.Is not a racing tipster who boasts about winners from 3 years ago in his advert not "MISLEADING" the reader of that advert! He most certainly is.
Is that not the truth? Yes it is. FACT AND PROVABLE!
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It said that:-----"He was once beaten in a tipping competition by a dog. No surprise there, then" need I say more....but I will!
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Now ask yourselves this question.
Why would Wikipedia withdraw an entry which told the truth and the truth can be proven? The entry was truthful to the very last word and could be proven.
Think about it.... If the entry can be 100% proven, why should it be withdrawn. It was not abusive, It was not rude. It just told the truth.
Instead of Wikipedia helping to protect their innocent readers from con-men they withdraw the evidence that could protect the reader. They remove the undercoat and leave the gloss behind that will trick the customer into thinking that Derek Thompson is a moral person. By doing so the reader of Wikipedia will see a nice person not knowing that the nice person who
"offers a tipping service which has gained notoriety amongst racing fans for being hopeless - both in terms of tipping winners and misleading people by referring to winners tipped up over 3 years ago. He was once beaten in a tipping competition by a dog. No surprise there, then"......is a con-man PROVEN!
Think about it.
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Saturday 24 January 2009
WIKIPEDIA Tommo "misleads" etc
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WIKIPEDIA TELL THE TRUTH LIKE WOT I DID! And ATR and Betfair cannot ban WIKIPEDIA can they? But I know someone who wished they could.....And his patronising pals can't do nout about it this time, can they? A great day for the good guys. A great day indeed.
I am unable to show the WIKIPEDIA link (not allowed). Lift that site and tap in DEREK THOMPSON and you will find out what its all about.
extract from WIKIPEDIA refering to Derek Tompson:-..."He also offers a tipping service which has gained notoriety amongst racing fans for being hopeless - both in terms of tipping winners and misleading people by referring to winners tipped up over 3 years ago. He was once beaten in a tipping competition by a dog. No surprise there, then"
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THIS IS GOOD NEWS FOR THE GOOD GUYS...VERY GOOD NEWS INDEED!!!!!
EVEN 'WIKIPEDIA' KNOW THOMPSON "MISLEADS"
EVEN 'WIKIPEDIA' KNOW THOMPSON'S "FANS THINK HE IS HOPELESS"
EVEN 'WIKIPEDIA' KNOW THOMPSON'S BOASTS ABOUT WINNERS "FROM 3 YEARS AGO."
Now after such a powerful information provider as WIKIPEDIA are in the good guys camp, maybe 2009 will be the start of Thompson's decline. At last the truth! It sure is going to have some clout when investigations are started. And after the above, how can the regulators refuse?
WOW! WOW! WOW! Do Talk Sport know about it?
WOW! WOW! WOW! Do At The Races know about it?
WOW! WOW! WOW! Do The Morning Line know about it?
WOW! WOW! WOW! Does Channel 4 know about it?
WOW! WOW! WOW! Does Elite Racing know about it?
WOW! WOW! WOW! Does the Racing Post know about it?
WOW! WOW! WOW! Does the Trinity Miror Group know about it?
WOW! WOW! WOW! Do the bookmakers shops that he opens know about it?
WOW! WOW! WOW! Does the Cruise Liner Guest speaker agent know about it?
OF COURSE THEY DO!!! and they all said nout!...I wonder why!
I wonder why The Trinity Mirror Group removed their "PROOFING " tag from Thompson's website a couple of weeks ago..... What do they say abandon's a ship when it's sinking?
Is this gonna be pay day for Thompson?
Is he going to give the poor souls that trusted him their money back?
Oy AT THE RACES!!!
You banned me from your forum for life for saying what WIKIPEDIA are saying.... Your exact words were:- “NICE TRY – POOR EFFORT. DATE THE BAN WILL BE LIFTED - NEVER” Do you remember that ATR? WHY did you say that to me? If I knew about Thompson. Why didn't you? After all ATR, Thompson does do work for you, does he not?
Oh yes ATR!! One more thing. It was the first and only time that I ever tried to post a thread on your forum. It lasted a minute before you zapped it. It was almost as though you were expecting me. But then Thompson does do work for you, doesn't he. And as Wikipedia themselves have said, he does have a reputation for being hopeless misleading people and boasting about his winners from 3 years ago. Are you going to zap the truthful Wikipedia statement as well ATR?
OY BETFAIR!!!
You banned me from your forum for life for saying what WIKIPEDIA are saying... I have not got the words you used because if you recall, I told you that I had problems with my email and that I was unable to read your warning....You took no notice and chucked me out for telling the truth about a trick racing tipster who is " HOPELESS - MISLEADING and stretches his results"....WHY?
2009 may be the year of Thompson's decline!.....Now what was the name of that TV programme ....Ah yes....GOTCHA!
WIKIPEDIA TELL THE TRUTH LIKE WOT I DID! And ATR and Betfair cannot ban WIKIPEDIA can they? But I know someone who wished they could.....And his patronising pals can't do nout about it this time, can they? A great day for the good guys. A great day indeed.
I am unable to show the WIKIPEDIA link (not allowed). Lift that site and tap in DEREK THOMPSON and you will find out what its all about.
extract from WIKIPEDIA refering to Derek Tompson:-..."He also offers a tipping service which has gained notoriety amongst racing fans for being hopeless - both in terms of tipping winners and misleading people by referring to winners tipped up over 3 years ago. He was once beaten in a tipping competition by a dog. No surprise there, then"
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THIS IS GOOD NEWS FOR THE GOOD GUYS...VERY GOOD NEWS INDEED!!!!!
EVEN 'WIKIPEDIA' KNOW THOMPSON "MISLEADS"
EVEN 'WIKIPEDIA' KNOW THOMPSON'S "FANS THINK HE IS HOPELESS"
EVEN 'WIKIPEDIA' KNOW THOMPSON'S BOASTS ABOUT WINNERS "FROM 3 YEARS AGO."
Now after such a powerful information provider as WIKIPEDIA are in the good guys camp, maybe 2009 will be the start of Thompson's decline. At last the truth! It sure is going to have some clout when investigations are started. And after the above, how can the regulators refuse?
WOW! WOW! WOW! Do Talk Sport know about it?
WOW! WOW! WOW! Do At The Races know about it?
WOW! WOW! WOW! Do The Morning Line know about it?
WOW! WOW! WOW! Does Channel 4 know about it?
WOW! WOW! WOW! Does Elite Racing know about it?
WOW! WOW! WOW! Does the Racing Post know about it?
WOW! WOW! WOW! Does the Trinity Miror Group know about it?
WOW! WOW! WOW! Do the bookmakers shops that he opens know about it?
WOW! WOW! WOW! Does the Cruise Liner Guest speaker agent know about it?
OF COURSE THEY DO!!! and they all said nout!...I wonder why!
I wonder why The Trinity Mirror Group removed their "PROOFING " tag from Thompson's website a couple of weeks ago..... What do they say abandon's a ship when it's sinking?
Is this gonna be pay day for Thompson?
Is he going to give the poor souls that trusted him their money back?
Oy AT THE RACES!!!
You banned me from your forum for life for saying what WIKIPEDIA are saying.... Your exact words were:- “NICE TRY – POOR EFFORT. DATE THE BAN WILL BE LIFTED - NEVER” Do you remember that ATR? WHY did you say that to me? If I knew about Thompson. Why didn't you? After all ATR, Thompson does do work for you, does he not?
Oh yes ATR!! One more thing. It was the first and only time that I ever tried to post a thread on your forum. It lasted a minute before you zapped it. It was almost as though you were expecting me. But then Thompson does do work for you, doesn't he. And as Wikipedia themselves have said, he does have a reputation for being hopeless misleading people and boasting about his winners from 3 years ago. Are you going to zap the truthful Wikipedia statement as well ATR?
OY BETFAIR!!!
You banned me from your forum for life for saying what WIKIPEDIA are saying... I have not got the words you used because if you recall, I told you that I had problems with my email and that I was unable to read your warning....You took no notice and chucked me out for telling the truth about a trick racing tipster who is " HOPELESS - MISLEADING and stretches his results"....WHY?
2009 may be the year of Thompson's decline!.....Now what was the name of that TV programme ....Ah yes....GOTCHA!
Is this the answer to fraud tipsters?
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090 TIPSTER MORALITY IN QUESTION.
PRS 090 trickster tipsters hide their losses behind a farcical facade of a few advertised winners. They all do it. They always have done it. And they always will do it as long as the regulator allows it.
And every single one of them makes a loss…. But does the client know? No he does not…..
Is the client entitled to know? Yes he is…..
Is it dishonest to trick and mislead the client? Yes it is…..
Has the client no right of protection from people that trick and deceive them with manufactured results to impress? Yes they have…..
Do they get it? No they don’t…..
Why don’t they get it? Because the tipsters drive coach and horse’s through the weak code of practice governing racing tipsters.
What can be done about it? The answer is so simple. The tipster must show in his advert a monthly profit or loss to a 1 point level stake at starting price odds…..
But isn’t that the last thing that a tipster would want to do? Yes it is.
Why? Because the tipster knows that he could not show a long term profit by tipping so many horses every day of the week. He force-feeds the vulnerable with misleading and seductive adverts. It is impossible. and the tipster knows it.
Such tipsters are frauds and confidence tricksters. If they dispute what I say, then show the clients your monthly profit and loss figures.
What do they say? Aaah yes!!...And pigs might fly!
090 TIPSTER MORALITY IN QUESTION.
PRS 090 trickster tipsters hide their losses behind a farcical facade of a few advertised winners. They all do it. They always have done it. And they always will do it as long as the regulator allows it.
And every single one of them makes a loss…. But does the client know? No he does not…..
Is the client entitled to know? Yes he is…..
Is it dishonest to trick and mislead the client? Yes it is…..
Has the client no right of protection from people that trick and deceive them with manufactured results to impress? Yes they have…..
Do they get it? No they don’t…..
Why don’t they get it? Because the tipsters drive coach and horse’s through the weak code of practice governing racing tipsters.
What can be done about it? The answer is so simple. The tipster must show in his advert a monthly profit or loss to a 1 point level stake at starting price odds…..
But isn’t that the last thing that a tipster would want to do? Yes it is.
Why? Because the tipster knows that he could not show a long term profit by tipping so many horses every day of the week. He force-feeds the vulnerable with misleading and seductive adverts. It is impossible. and the tipster knows it.
Such tipsters are frauds and confidence tricksters. If they dispute what I say, then show the clients your monthly profit and loss figures.
What do they say? Aaah yes!!...And pigs might fly!
THOMPSONS SCAM WEBSITE
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Me computer went wrong last night...again ... and I could not update me "Sensational" post.... Got a geezer coming round in a minute to sort it proper.... In the meantime here' a juicy story to be getting on with........ THE NAILER???
Its part of a letter that I am sending to ALL authorities..... AND I WANT RESULTS AND ANSWERS
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DEREK THOMPSON’S WEBSITE CODE VIOLATIONS
And finally sir. You will see in the yellow box (Derek Thompson's Website) a horse called Kinnaird shown at 70-1. That price is over twice the starting price of 33-1…. Misleading by deception. Code violation. Starting prices only should be shown.
The 090 advert adjacent to the yellow box of ‘winners only’ suggests that the winners came from that 090 service. I believe they did not. In fact I am almost certain they did not! Misleading by visual suggestion and deception plus code violation.
You will see that Thompson lists a load of flashy prices in the yellow box but fails to indicate the name of any horse, the date or where raced. (except the eye catching 70-1 trick price winner) He throws a load of fancy prices in a box and shows nothing to connect them with any race. All prices are un-provable to the reader. The prices look impressive and tempting and do tempt, but where did they come from? Is the purchaser of his tips not entitled to know at least the name of the related horse? Misleading by omission and misleading visual suggestion.
Until recently The Trinity Mirror Group showed a tag that indicated they proofed Thompson’s selections. The tag has now recently been removed. The removal indicates to the customer that there may be reasons for so doing. If there are reasons, is the customer not entitled to know why TMG stopped proofing?
The Trinity Mirror Group own the Racing Post. I believe Thompson is not charged for his adverts in that paper. They all take a share of the 090 revenue. All three have financially linked interests in the tipsters advert. Hardly independent are they? One might say that they have a rather cosy relationship.
My last complaint is the most serious of all and after reading it sir, I would challenge you to contradict me. It concerns the only horse Thompson mentions on his web-page. Kinnaird 70-1 in the yellow box. If you look in the yellow box you will see it was tipped in October with all the rest of the winners that he boasts. 3 months back. That is a long stretch to promote past winners even by Derek Thompson’s standards. As Kinnaird was the only horse mentioned in the website I decided to check it out to see what it’s SP was.
I checked October 2008……. No Kinnaird
I checked October 2007…….. No Kinnaird
I checked October 2006…….. No Kinnaird
I checked October 2005……...And there it was KINNAIRD 33-1
The last time Kinnaird ran (ever) was 23rd October 2005
The very last time Kinnaird won was on the 2nd of October 2005.
It has not run since.
I believe that Thompson has been promoting Kinnaird to sell his website 090 service for years (I cannot prove it but I’m sure someone can)
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I would ask that you look at Derek Thompson’s website again and ask yourself, how many people look at that yellow flash of impressive winners - the 090 conveniently placed telephone beside the flash - and then look at the wonderful winners in the yellow flash for the month of “October”. 2008?....... AND THEN PHONE!!!!
Answer. Probably tens of thousands. Every single one of them would and so would I had I not checked it out! All potential callers will relate the website claims to the tipsters 090 service for the month of October 2008? false pretences and massive code violation..
Thompson did not lie. He said October and it was October. The only difference is that the October the customer thought he was responding to was 2008, when unknowing to the customer, Thompson’s website “October” relates to 2005.
Thompson’ current website chooses not too tell the name of a horse at its starting price of 33-1. Instead he shows it at 70-1.. Code violation....
Thompson chooses to tell his customer the month of his winners was Octber. It was. OCTOBER 2005!!!!. Misleading.. Trickery-Deception- Dishonest and Indecent.. Massive code violation..
All the information I have given you can be matched with the website copy I that enclose with this letter. Kinnairds result can be proved in archive race results.
And finally sir. Think about the tens of thousands of thousands of people that were tricked by this 090 scam not realising they were the victims of a con. If Thompson is found at fault, will they get their money back? Thompson has made himself a very rich man on the strength of his many trick 090 tippping services
In my opinion sir, I have supplied undisputable evidence of wrong doing by Derek Thompson and would ask that is he to be allowed to continue skinning the vulnerable. Should you require further evidence of his trickery, I will be pleased to oblige, especially to his 090 Racing Post adverts.
Thompson is promoting his 090 service today (23rd Jan 2009) on one single horse that won in October 2005. That sir is one huge massive con. A scam and a fraud. To sell vulnerable people a service based on OCTOBER WINNERS OF 2005 when they think that it must be 2008 cannot be excused anything other that a confidence trick of the highest magnitude.
That of course sir is as I see it. Maybe the authorities will see it different. But for the sake of the poor people who do not realize the reality within……It is not decent. It is not honest and it is not fair..With the very greatest of respect sir I suggest that this 090 website be looked into
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(to be added to the letter.)
Please take another look at the yellow box sir. Thompson claims 65 winners in October. Heaven alone only knows as to which October he is referring. I would ask the regulator why does he not show his customers HIS PROFIT for that month? And why does he not show his winners for November and December? Maybe he has reasons! He may have had 65 winners in Octoner but I can almost guarantee he made a loss to a level stak. The customer is not interested in just getting winners sir. Every customer that phones 090 tipsters expects to make a profit given the information that the tipster presents to them ... 090 tipsters never show their monthly profits. They only choose to show their winners. That sir is not a decent way to trick the caller into phoning the tipster
Me computer went wrong last night...again ... and I could not update me "Sensational" post.... Got a geezer coming round in a minute to sort it proper.... In the meantime here' a juicy story to be getting on with........ THE NAILER???
Its part of a letter that I am sending to ALL authorities..... AND I WANT RESULTS AND ANSWERS
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DEREK THOMPSON’S WEBSITE CODE VIOLATIONS
And finally sir. You will see in the yellow box (Derek Thompson's Website) a horse called Kinnaird shown at 70-1. That price is over twice the starting price of 33-1…. Misleading by deception. Code violation. Starting prices only should be shown.
The 090 advert adjacent to the yellow box of ‘winners only’ suggests that the winners came from that 090 service. I believe they did not. In fact I am almost certain they did not! Misleading by visual suggestion and deception plus code violation.
You will see that Thompson lists a load of flashy prices in the yellow box but fails to indicate the name of any horse, the date or where raced. (except the eye catching 70-1 trick price winner) He throws a load of fancy prices in a box and shows nothing to connect them with any race. All prices are un-provable to the reader. The prices look impressive and tempting and do tempt, but where did they come from? Is the purchaser of his tips not entitled to know at least the name of the related horse? Misleading by omission and misleading visual suggestion.
Until recently The Trinity Mirror Group showed a tag that indicated they proofed Thompson’s selections. The tag has now recently been removed. The removal indicates to the customer that there may be reasons for so doing. If there are reasons, is the customer not entitled to know why TMG stopped proofing?
The Trinity Mirror Group own the Racing Post. I believe Thompson is not charged for his adverts in that paper. They all take a share of the 090 revenue. All three have financially linked interests in the tipsters advert. Hardly independent are they? One might say that they have a rather cosy relationship.
My last complaint is the most serious of all and after reading it sir, I would challenge you to contradict me. It concerns the only horse Thompson mentions on his web-page. Kinnaird 70-1 in the yellow box. If you look in the yellow box you will see it was tipped in October with all the rest of the winners that he boasts. 3 months back. That is a long stretch to promote past winners even by Derek Thompson’s standards. As Kinnaird was the only horse mentioned in the website I decided to check it out to see what it’s SP was.
I checked October 2008……. No Kinnaird
I checked October 2007…….. No Kinnaird
I checked October 2006…….. No Kinnaird
I checked October 2005……...And there it was KINNAIRD 33-1
The last time Kinnaird ran (ever) was 23rd October 2005
The very last time Kinnaird won was on the 2nd of October 2005.
It has not run since.
I believe that Thompson has been promoting Kinnaird to sell his website 090 service for years (I cannot prove it but I’m sure someone can)
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I would ask that you look at Derek Thompson’s website again and ask yourself, how many people look at that yellow flash of impressive winners - the 090 conveniently placed telephone beside the flash - and then look at the wonderful winners in the yellow flash for the month of “October”. 2008?....... AND THEN PHONE!!!!
Answer. Probably tens of thousands. Every single one of them would and so would I had I not checked it out! All potential callers will relate the website claims to the tipsters 090 service for the month of October 2008? false pretences and massive code violation..
Thompson did not lie. He said October and it was October. The only difference is that the October the customer thought he was responding to was 2008, when unknowing to the customer, Thompson’s website “October” relates to 2005.
Thompson’ current website chooses not too tell the name of a horse at its starting price of 33-1. Instead he shows it at 70-1.. Code violation....
Thompson chooses to tell his customer the month of his winners was Octber. It was. OCTOBER 2005!!!!. Misleading.. Trickery-Deception- Dishonest and Indecent.. Massive code violation..
All the information I have given you can be matched with the website copy I that enclose with this letter. Kinnairds result can be proved in archive race results.
And finally sir. Think about the tens of thousands of thousands of people that were tricked by this 090 scam not realising they were the victims of a con. If Thompson is found at fault, will they get their money back? Thompson has made himself a very rich man on the strength of his many trick 090 tippping services
In my opinion sir, I have supplied undisputable evidence of wrong doing by Derek Thompson and would ask that is he to be allowed to continue skinning the vulnerable. Should you require further evidence of his trickery, I will be pleased to oblige, especially to his 090 Racing Post adverts.
Thompson is promoting his 090 service today (23rd Jan 2009) on one single horse that won in October 2005. That sir is one huge massive con. A scam and a fraud. To sell vulnerable people a service based on OCTOBER WINNERS OF 2005 when they think that it must be 2008 cannot be excused anything other that a confidence trick of the highest magnitude.
That of course sir is as I see it. Maybe the authorities will see it different. But for the sake of the poor people who do not realize the reality within……It is not decent. It is not honest and it is not fair..With the very greatest of respect sir I suggest that this 090 website be looked into
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(to be added to the letter.)
Please take another look at the yellow box sir. Thompson claims 65 winners in October. Heaven alone only knows as to which October he is referring. I would ask the regulator why does he not show his customers HIS PROFIT for that month? And why does he not show his winners for November and December? Maybe he has reasons! He may have had 65 winners in Octoner but I can almost guarantee he made a loss to a level stak. The customer is not interested in just getting winners sir. Every customer that phones 090 tipsters expects to make a profit given the information that the tipster presents to them ... 090 tipsters never show their monthly profits. They only choose to show their winners. That sir is not a decent way to trick the caller into phoning the tipster
Friday 23 January 2009
RACING POST 'MISLEADING' AD 3
RACING POST DENIAL OF MISLEADING ADVERTS 3
A letter was sent to the Racing Post (Vital Spark) complaining of Derek Thompson's disgusting and misleading adverts. Part reply to 'Vital Sparks complaint was, and these are the actual words The Racing Post used.
THE RACING POST SEZ:-
“Reflecting upon the true nature of horse racing, it is unrealistic to expect any individual or service to solely produce winners"“
GOOD GOD!!!!!!!! Isn't that exactly what 090 misleading tipping adverts do? Thompson's adverts show “HIS SERVICE SOLELY PRODUCES WINNERS” UNREALISTIC OR NOT........., ACCORDING TO DEREK THOMPSON'S ADVERTS “HIS SERVICE PRODUCES SOLELY WINNERS!!!!!….If that is not the case then perhaps the Racing Post will show in which paper for the last 15 years he shows that he tipped a loser!!!
His adverts prove my point. In 20 years Derek Thomson has told every reader of his advert that he only tips winners.
And on the strength of that boast, people respond to his advert and pay him money. It is only AFTER he has taken their money that they realise they have been mislead by a dishonest and a not decent advert!!!! To late!! Thompson’s got their money and has banked it! Do they complain?…. No!….Why?…..Well it was only a fiver!!!………..That is the strength of the scam. People DO NOT COMPLAIN TO THE REGULATOR ABUT JUST LOSING A FEW QUID ........DO THEY?
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A letter was sent to the Racing Post (Vital Spark) complaining of Derek Thompson's disgusting and misleading adverts. Part reply to 'Vital Sparks complaint was, and these are the actual words The Racing Post used.
THE RACING POST SEZ:-
“Reflecting upon the true nature of horse racing, it is unrealistic to expect any individual or service to solely produce winners"“
GOOD GOD!!!!!!!! Isn't that exactly what 090 misleading tipping adverts do? Thompson's adverts show “HIS SERVICE SOLELY PRODUCES WINNERS” UNREALISTIC OR NOT........., ACCORDING TO DEREK THOMPSON'S ADVERTS “HIS SERVICE PRODUCES SOLELY WINNERS!!!!!….If that is not the case then perhaps the Racing Post will show in which paper for the last 15 years he shows that he tipped a loser!!!
His adverts prove my point. In 20 years Derek Thomson has told every reader of his advert that he only tips winners.
And on the strength of that boast, people respond to his advert and pay him money. It is only AFTER he has taken their money that they realise they have been mislead by a dishonest and a not decent advert!!!! To late!! Thompson’s got their money and has banked it! Do they complain?…. No!….Why?…..Well it was only a fiver!!!………..That is the strength of the scam. People DO NOT COMPLAIN TO THE REGULATOR ABUT JUST LOSING A FEW QUID ........DO THEY?
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Thursday 22 January 2009
THOMPSON listen's to the BUNNIES
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THOMPSON'S GOT HIS EAR STUCK TO THE GROUND!
THOMPSON’S LISTENING OUT FOR WINNERS
BY STICKING HIS HEAD IN A RABBIT HOLE!!!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh ha ha haaaaaaaaaaagh
And he does have a passion for stretching, doesn’t he?
A 12-1 winner on the 2nd December was
last scam-ad’d in the RP on the 4th January
A 4 week winner stretch
And look at his latest stretch!
He’s had his bloody ear stuck down a rabbit hole
Since the 14th Jan ..........11 days
24th Jan ....."I've got my ear to the ground"
23rd Jan ....."I've got my ear to the ground"
22nd Jan .....“I’ve got my ear to the ground"
21st Jan .... “I’ve got my ear to the ground”
20th Jan .....“I’ve got my ear to the ground”
19th Jan......“I’ve got my ear to the ground
18th Jan .....“I’ve got my ear to the ground
17th Jan .....“I’ve got my ear to the ground”
16th Jan......“I’ve got my ear to the ground”
15th Jan......“I’ve got my ear to the ground”
14th Jan......"I've got my ear to the ground"
Aaaaaaaaaagh ha ha Haaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!
I think I might just stick one of me ferrets
down the ‘ole to keep him company!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaagh ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!
Worra load of crap!
There’s either something going on at HQ or
he is having one bloody awfull run of losers
CAN ANYBODY HELP ME OUT PLEASE?
I DESPERATELY NEED HIS JANUARY RESULTS
scamtips@hotmail.co.uk
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THOMPSON'S GOT HIS EAR STUCK TO THE GROUND!
THOMPSON’S LISTENING OUT FOR WINNERS
BY STICKING HIS HEAD IN A RABBIT HOLE!!!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh ha ha haaaaaaaaaaagh
And he does have a passion for stretching, doesn’t he?
A 12-1 winner on the 2nd December was
last scam-ad’d in the RP on the 4th January
A 4 week winner stretch
And look at his latest stretch!
He’s had his bloody ear stuck down a rabbit hole
Since the 14th Jan ..........11 days
24th Jan ....."I've got my ear to the ground"
23rd Jan ....."I've got my ear to the ground"
22nd Jan .....“I’ve got my ear to the ground"
21st Jan .... “I’ve got my ear to the ground”
20th Jan .....“I’ve got my ear to the ground”
19th Jan......“I’ve got my ear to the ground
18th Jan .....“I’ve got my ear to the ground
17th Jan .....“I’ve got my ear to the ground”
16th Jan......“I’ve got my ear to the ground”
15th Jan......“I’ve got my ear to the ground”
14th Jan......"I've got my ear to the ground"
Aaaaaaaaaagh ha ha Haaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!
I think I might just stick one of me ferrets
down the ‘ole to keep him company!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaagh ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!
Worra load of crap!
There’s either something going on at HQ or
he is having one bloody awfull run of losers
CAN ANYBODY HELP ME OUT PLEASE?
I DESPERATELY NEED HIS JANUARY RESULTS
scamtips@hotmail.co.uk
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Wednesday 21 January 2009
FANTASTIC ASA post VITAL SPARK
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Vital Spark posted the ASA code of conduct up in the BF thread. I decided to use it to make my own complaint ...Again! I will be posting it tomorrow the 23rd Jan.
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Dear Sir. (ASA)
I wish to make a complaint about Racing Tipsters. Especially 090 PRS tipping lines. The highest profile of these is a much respected TV celebrity by the name of Derek Thompson. He currently runs three 090 tipping lines and also a subscription service I believe. All his 090 lines return huge long term losses. And I mean HUGE! And can be proven....It is the denial of sharing the losses with his clients in his adverts that prompts me to write this letter. In other words he sells his service on the strength of ‘winner only’ adverts ...Losers are never shown.... I believe that he sells his product via misleading advertising...The customer is denied the whole truth about the success or failure of the service. Misleading by omission.
Below I have listed ASA code of practice guidelines that I believe have been and are being violated
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ASA guideline 2.2... Key points for media ad departments
Publishers should check that marketers have “proofed” forecasts with an independent third party before marketing that they have tipped particular winners or achieved a certain level of profit (see 5.1)
For a long time (probably years) one of Derek Thompson’s 090 advert, carried very tiny wordage....With the aid of a magnifying glass it said....”Proofed to the Trinity Mirror Group”.....I believe that TMG allows Derek Thompson and other 090 tipping services to place their adverts in The Racing Post for free. It is a cozy relationship whereby the tipster places his advert and the newspaper proof the advert...The newspaper then take their cut of the tipsters 090 revenue. Hardly an independent Party!.....After I brought that point to light in my much viewed blog relating to scam racing tipsters, the wordage “proofed by The Mirror Trinity group” disappeared. I wonder why!
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ASA guideline 2.3 ... Key points for media departments
Publishers who “proof” their marketers’ forecasts for them (as in “ a good thing running at HQ today...make sure you are on” should be able to provide documentary evidence that the forecasts were lodged with them in advance and that their systems for recording such forecasts have been approved and regularly monitored by an independent third party (see 5.2)
As in “Flying machine”...” Be on with me today”...”Don’t miss out”....”Ring now”
I would like to know how the consumer of 090 tipping services can find such “third party” confirmations....As a consumer is he not entitled. Bearing in mind that the tipster does everything he can to withhold such information from the consumer
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ASA Guideline ...2.4 Key points for media departments
Publishers should check that marketers have not claimed that their forecasts
are very likely or certain to win or their service is very likely or certain to turn aprofit (see 6.1)
Derek Thompson adverts say things like ......”flying machine. Be on today” “Don’t miss out“...”This horse has been laid out for this race”....”Good thing today”...he also says .”etc etc”....”and many many more” ..... The ‘etc etc’ and ’many many more’ are particularly offensive and he continually uses those expressions to make the consumer think that he has had so many winners he has not got the space in his advert to list them....He’s been doing it for years....The reality of such boastful expressions as “etc etc” is that he has tipped many worthless winners. He is on written record ‘The Guardian’ as saying “you should never back odds on” Yet he tips thousands of them, and most of them lose Odds on winners return LESS than the stake money invested......I would ask. Are not such advertorial boasts “etc etc” about the likely success of his service as shown in his winner only adverts, not an indication the horse and the customer “are very likely to win?”
ASA guideline 2.6 .... Key points for media departments
Publishers should check that marketers who make claims about their track
record have not exaggerated their success, have stated clearly both the relevant period of forecasting and the “bank” and have either based their forecasts on starting prices or have stated the basis for any earlier prices (see 7))
Derek Thompson and others 090 tipsters, brag about horses that won weeks ago....In the game , its called stretching....I recently wrote in my blog about Thompson stretching a horse for 4 weeks ....... He tipped a 12-1 winner on the 2nd December .....and advertised it nearly every day through-out December....He finally stopped advertising it on the 4th January, 4 weeks AFTER he first bragged about it......That surely is unfair and misleading information to Thompson’s unknowing customers......(.Misleading exaggeration and trickery by stretching of long gone success)..... Is not the customer entitled to know that the 12-1 winner was 4 weeks ago?.....Thompson’s results throughout the month of December to just a small £5 stake were appalling...Massive losses.....They were even worse in November.....I have them all on record if required.......Because he could not boast in his advert of later successes, he boasted nearly every day about the winner he had on the 2nd December and carried on doing so throughout the whole month of December ........ He last boasted about his 12-1 winner on the 4th January 2009...exactly 4 weeks after his first boastful advert. ....
You mention the tipsters betting Bank ..... .No tipster has ever in The Racing Post shown a betting bank .....If they did, the customers would see in an instant the tipsters performance figures....The very last thing a tipster wants to show his ‘victim’ is his betting bank!.....Were the rules changed compelling tipsters to show a bank of their COMPLETE, profit and loss figures, the problem would be solved at a stroke......Tipsters get very very rich on the proceeds of their customers being denied from seeing their ‘banks’ and TRUE results. And the customer always loses in the long term....fact
As to your reference about publishers. It is the Racing Post (the publisher) that checks his claims, as I have shown above. It is my belief that the publisher does not charge the main 090 tipping services in their paper.....The tipster places his advert for free and the Racing Post take a slice of the revenue....It’s called an advertorial.......In other words the tipster gets a free ride and the Racing Post cash in.... And you say that it should be the Racing Post (the publisher) that check Thompson’s. track record. But do not The Racing Post (The Trinity Mirror Group) check the advert of the 090 tipster whose profits they share? Thompsn’s tips are proofed by The Trinity Mirror Group who own the Racing Post.....A very cozy relationship I feel.
Is not the customer entitled to check or see the tipster’s claims?...Is not the customer entitled to see the tipster’s track record?.....Is not the customer entitled to see the tipsters tipping bank?..... Has not the customer the right to see the tipsters losers as well as the force feeding by the tipster of his winner’s only adverts?.......Has the customer no entitlement as to the RELEVENT information other than that of being shown only winners?.....False pretences!!!!
I apologies at this stage for the length of my reply....But it is relevant....Had I not told you of the 12-1 4 week stretch, you would never have known...... But all Thompson’s customers knew.....But they never complain much......They only lost a few quid after all......It ‘aint worth complaining about is it......And that sir, is the strength of the 090 trick tipster.....Nobody complains and makes a fuss about losing a few quid do they!
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3.2 The law and the code
Marketers offering services via a premium rate telephone line must conform to
the latest edition of the ICSTIS Code of Practice and are urged to consult the
ICSTIS Guideline on Betting Tipster Services (Guideline No. 15);
Given the examples that I have shown in this letter of what I believe to be
malpractice tipping by Derek Thompson, and the fact that he has violated the ICSTIS(PhonepayPlus) code of conduct,is he not breaking the law?
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ASA guideline 3.3 ... The law and the code
“Before distributing or submitting a marketing communication for publication,
marketers must hold documentary evidence to prove all claims, whether direct or implied, that are capable of objective substantiation” (clause 3.1); and “No marketing communication should mislead, or be likely to mislead, by inaccuracy, ambiguity, exaggeration, omission or otherwise” (clause 7.1).
I believe tipping services that advertise ‘winners only’ are misleading the reader/customer. They mislead the customer with intent by omitting to show their customers losers. In the last 20 years I have seen tipsters boasting tens of thousands of winners, but not one single loser. The customer responds to the advert on the strength of a few winners unaware that the tipster has just had 100 losers.....I believe that to be misleading. The service may not be inaccurate in naming the odd winner or two, but in my view it is certainly immoral, dishonest, indecent and misleading...It also deceives.
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ASA guideline 5.1 ... Proofing forecasts
Marketers must be able to substantiate claims that they have tipped particular winners or achieved a certain level of profit. To do this, they should “proof” forecasts, i.e. lodge all forecasts with an independent third party before the events to which they refer take place;
How can the consumer check that the tipster has ‘substantiated his claims when there is no instruction or help to assist him in that direction. One would have thought that of all people that should have access to substantiated claims and profit levels, it is the customer.....Again how can the consumer find if the tipster has proofed his tips to a third party? Has the consumer no right to confirm for himself the above regulations have not been breeched?
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ASA guideline 6.1 .... Exaggerated success claims
Marketers should not claim that their forecasts are very likely or certain to winor that their service is very likely or certain to turn a profit.
The very fact that the tipster only markets success in his adverts by only displaying winners to the customer (his advert never mentions losers) must suggest to the customer that he will make a profit if he pays the tipster for his tips. The force feeding of ‘winners only’ could make the customer feel he himself is on a winner. And it does. Is that not a trick of confidence?
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ASA guideline 7.1 .... Track record claims
Marketers who make claims about their track record (e.g. by quoting
aggregate profit figures) must state clearly the relevant period of forecasting
and the total amount of money (the “bank”) needed to place stakes on the
forecasts;
In 20 years I have never seen an 090 tipping service show their track record or show a bank....WHY?....And the answer is so obvious....If they had a track record that show a profitable bank....THEY WOULD SHOW IT IN THEIR ADVERT!
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ASA guideline7.2 ...Track record claims
Marketers should not refer to successful periods in a way that wrongly impliesthey are successful in other periods, or are generally successful
Almost all tipsters refer to successful past result periods (Up to 4 weeks as I clearly illustrated with Derek Thompson. Almost none of them are successful, but they all do it....That is one of the biggest complaints made against tipster by the people who want them to show their tipping records for the month in their advert instead of hiding them. The absence of any monthly record of success proves they all make a loss otherwise they would all be boasting about profitable stats and not just the odd winner from 4 weeks ago.
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ASA guideline 7.3 ... Track record claims
Marketers who make claims about their track record are urged to base their
claims on starting prices (NB. the ICSTIS Code of Practice that applies to
marketers using premium rate services states that “aggregate profit figures
may only be calculated using starting prices and the total stake on which the
profit is based must be stated”);
“AGGREGATE PROFIT FIGURES”....That is the whole problem with ALL tipsters.......You will never find in an advert, least of all 090services, a tipster showing “aggregate profit figures”... If you did, ALL problems with racing tipsters would disappear at a stroke.....The last thing tipsters want their customers to see is their aggregate LOSS figures”...The question to be asked is..... WHY? .....You will never see tipsters make track record claims because they never show track records for their customers to see....Instead they just pick and play with their odd winner or two from 4 weeks ago! Proven
With respect sir I would ask that my complaint be given serious consideration...It is after all a very serious complaint....Further information can be sullied if required
Sincerely Gerry Attric!
Vital Spark posted the ASA code of conduct up in the BF thread. I decided to use it to make my own complaint ...Again! I will be posting it tomorrow the 23rd Jan.
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Dear Sir. (ASA)
I wish to make a complaint about Racing Tipsters. Especially 090 PRS tipping lines. The highest profile of these is a much respected TV celebrity by the name of Derek Thompson. He currently runs three 090 tipping lines and also a subscription service I believe. All his 090 lines return huge long term losses. And I mean HUGE! And can be proven....It is the denial of sharing the losses with his clients in his adverts that prompts me to write this letter. In other words he sells his service on the strength of ‘winner only’ adverts ...Losers are never shown.... I believe that he sells his product via misleading advertising...The customer is denied the whole truth about the success or failure of the service. Misleading by omission.
Below I have listed ASA code of practice guidelines that I believe have been and are being violated
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ASA guideline 2.2... Key points for media ad departments
Publishers should check that marketers have “proofed” forecasts with an independent third party before marketing that they have tipped particular winners or achieved a certain level of profit (see 5.1)
For a long time (probably years) one of Derek Thompson’s 090 advert, carried very tiny wordage....With the aid of a magnifying glass it said....”Proofed to the Trinity Mirror Group”.....I believe that TMG allows Derek Thompson and other 090 tipping services to place their adverts in The Racing Post for free. It is a cozy relationship whereby the tipster places his advert and the newspaper proof the advert...The newspaper then take their cut of the tipsters 090 revenue. Hardly an independent Party!.....After I brought that point to light in my much viewed blog relating to scam racing tipsters, the wordage “proofed by The Mirror Trinity group” disappeared. I wonder why!
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ASA guideline 2.3 ... Key points for media departments
Publishers who “proof” their marketers’ forecasts for them (as in “ a good thing running at HQ today...make sure you are on” should be able to provide documentary evidence that the forecasts were lodged with them in advance and that their systems for recording such forecasts have been approved and regularly monitored by an independent third party (see 5.2)
As in “Flying machine”...” Be on with me today”...”Don’t miss out”....”Ring now”
I would like to know how the consumer of 090 tipping services can find such “third party” confirmations....As a consumer is he not entitled. Bearing in mind that the tipster does everything he can to withhold such information from the consumer
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ASA Guideline ...2.4 Key points for media departments
Publishers should check that marketers have not claimed that their forecasts
are very likely or certain to win or their service is very likely or certain to turn aprofit (see 6.1)
Derek Thompson adverts say things like ......”flying machine. Be on today” “Don’t miss out“...”This horse has been laid out for this race”....”Good thing today”...he also says .”etc etc”....”and many many more” ..... The ‘etc etc’ and ’many many more’ are particularly offensive and he continually uses those expressions to make the consumer think that he has had so many winners he has not got the space in his advert to list them....He’s been doing it for years....The reality of such boastful expressions as “etc etc” is that he has tipped many worthless winners. He is on written record ‘The Guardian’ as saying “you should never back odds on” Yet he tips thousands of them, and most of them lose Odds on winners return LESS than the stake money invested......I would ask. Are not such advertorial boasts “etc etc” about the likely success of his service as shown in his winner only adverts, not an indication the horse and the customer “are very likely to win?”
ASA guideline 2.6 .... Key points for media departments
Publishers should check that marketers who make claims about their track
record have not exaggerated their success, have stated clearly both the relevant period of forecasting and the “bank” and have either based their forecasts on starting prices or have stated the basis for any earlier prices (see 7))
Derek Thompson and others 090 tipsters, brag about horses that won weeks ago....In the game , its called stretching....I recently wrote in my blog about Thompson stretching a horse for 4 weeks ....... He tipped a 12-1 winner on the 2nd December .....and advertised it nearly every day through-out December....He finally stopped advertising it on the 4th January, 4 weeks AFTER he first bragged about it......That surely is unfair and misleading information to Thompson’s unknowing customers......(.Misleading exaggeration and trickery by stretching of long gone success)..... Is not the customer entitled to know that the 12-1 winner was 4 weeks ago?.....Thompson’s results throughout the month of December to just a small £5 stake were appalling...Massive losses.....They were even worse in November.....I have them all on record if required.......Because he could not boast in his advert of later successes, he boasted nearly every day about the winner he had on the 2nd December and carried on doing so throughout the whole month of December ........ He last boasted about his 12-1 winner on the 4th January 2009...exactly 4 weeks after his first boastful advert. ....
You mention the tipsters betting Bank ..... .No tipster has ever in The Racing Post shown a betting bank .....If they did, the customers would see in an instant the tipsters performance figures....The very last thing a tipster wants to show his ‘victim’ is his betting bank!.....Were the rules changed compelling tipsters to show a bank of their COMPLETE, profit and loss figures, the problem would be solved at a stroke......Tipsters get very very rich on the proceeds of their customers being denied from seeing their ‘banks’ and TRUE results. And the customer always loses in the long term....fact
As to your reference about publishers. It is the Racing Post (the publisher) that checks his claims, as I have shown above. It is my belief that the publisher does not charge the main 090 tipping services in their paper.....The tipster places his advert for free and the Racing Post take a slice of the revenue....It’s called an advertorial.......In other words the tipster gets a free ride and the Racing Post cash in.... And you say that it should be the Racing Post (the publisher) that check Thompson’s. track record. But do not The Racing Post (The Trinity Mirror Group) check the advert of the 090 tipster whose profits they share? Thompsn’s tips are proofed by The Trinity Mirror Group who own the Racing Post.....A very cozy relationship I feel.
Is not the customer entitled to check or see the tipster’s claims?...Is not the customer entitled to see the tipster’s track record?.....Is not the customer entitled to see the tipsters tipping bank?..... Has not the customer the right to see the tipsters losers as well as the force feeding by the tipster of his winner’s only adverts?.......Has the customer no entitlement as to the RELEVENT information other than that of being shown only winners?.....False pretences!!!!
I apologies at this stage for the length of my reply....But it is relevant....Had I not told you of the 12-1 4 week stretch, you would never have known...... But all Thompson’s customers knew.....But they never complain much......They only lost a few quid after all......It ‘aint worth complaining about is it......And that sir, is the strength of the 090 trick tipster.....Nobody complains and makes a fuss about losing a few quid do they!
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3.2 The law and the code
Marketers offering services via a premium rate telephone line must conform to
the latest edition of the ICSTIS Code of Practice and are urged to consult the
ICSTIS Guideline on Betting Tipster Services (Guideline No. 15);
Given the examples that I have shown in this letter of what I believe to be
malpractice tipping by Derek Thompson, and the fact that he has violated the ICSTIS(PhonepayPlus) code of conduct,is he not breaking the law?
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ASA guideline 3.3 ... The law and the code
“Before distributing or submitting a marketing communication for publication,
marketers must hold documentary evidence to prove all claims, whether direct or implied, that are capable of objective substantiation” (clause 3.1); and “No marketing communication should mislead, or be likely to mislead, by inaccuracy, ambiguity, exaggeration, omission or otherwise” (clause 7.1).
I believe tipping services that advertise ‘winners only’ are misleading the reader/customer. They mislead the customer with intent by omitting to show their customers losers. In the last 20 years I have seen tipsters boasting tens of thousands of winners, but not one single loser. The customer responds to the advert on the strength of a few winners unaware that the tipster has just had 100 losers.....I believe that to be misleading. The service may not be inaccurate in naming the odd winner or two, but in my view it is certainly immoral, dishonest, indecent and misleading...It also deceives.
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ASA guideline 5.1 ... Proofing forecasts
Marketers must be able to substantiate claims that they have tipped particular winners or achieved a certain level of profit. To do this, they should “proof” forecasts, i.e. lodge all forecasts with an independent third party before the events to which they refer take place;
How can the consumer check that the tipster has ‘substantiated his claims when there is no instruction or help to assist him in that direction. One would have thought that of all people that should have access to substantiated claims and profit levels, it is the customer.....Again how can the consumer find if the tipster has proofed his tips to a third party? Has the consumer no right to confirm for himself the above regulations have not been breeched?
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ASA guideline 6.1 .... Exaggerated success claims
Marketers should not claim that their forecasts are very likely or certain to winor that their service is very likely or certain to turn a profit.
The very fact that the tipster only markets success in his adverts by only displaying winners to the customer (his advert never mentions losers) must suggest to the customer that he will make a profit if he pays the tipster for his tips. The force feeding of ‘winners only’ could make the customer feel he himself is on a winner. And it does. Is that not a trick of confidence?
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ASA guideline 7.1 .... Track record claims
Marketers who make claims about their track record (e.g. by quoting
aggregate profit figures) must state clearly the relevant period of forecasting
and the total amount of money (the “bank”) needed to place stakes on the
forecasts;
In 20 years I have never seen an 090 tipping service show their track record or show a bank....WHY?....And the answer is so obvious....If they had a track record that show a profitable bank....THEY WOULD SHOW IT IN THEIR ADVERT!
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ASA guideline7.2 ...Track record claims
Marketers should not refer to successful periods in a way that wrongly impliesthey are successful in other periods, or are generally successful
Almost all tipsters refer to successful past result periods (Up to 4 weeks as I clearly illustrated with Derek Thompson. Almost none of them are successful, but they all do it....That is one of the biggest complaints made against tipster by the people who want them to show their tipping records for the month in their advert instead of hiding them. The absence of any monthly record of success proves they all make a loss otherwise they would all be boasting about profitable stats and not just the odd winner from 4 weeks ago.
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ASA guideline 7.3 ... Track record claims
Marketers who make claims about their track record are urged to base their
claims on starting prices (NB. the ICSTIS Code of Practice that applies to
marketers using premium rate services states that “aggregate profit figures
may only be calculated using starting prices and the total stake on which the
profit is based must be stated”);
“AGGREGATE PROFIT FIGURES”....That is the whole problem with ALL tipsters.......You will never find in an advert, least of all 090services, a tipster showing “aggregate profit figures”... If you did, ALL problems with racing tipsters would disappear at a stroke.....The last thing tipsters want their customers to see is their aggregate LOSS figures”...The question to be asked is..... WHY? .....You will never see tipsters make track record claims because they never show track records for their customers to see....Instead they just pick and play with their odd winner or two from 4 weeks ago! Proven
With respect sir I would ask that my complaint be given serious consideration...It is after all a very serious complaint....Further information can be sullied if required
Sincerely Gerry Attric!
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